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An "early Christmas present" for Canada's Conservatives? (plus a few related 'toons)
Ottawa Sun - Canada ^ | Sunday, December 3, 2006 | Greg Weston

Posted on 12/03/2006 12:35:51 PM PST by GMMAC

Dion's party crashers

Unlikely win a victory for new guard -- and possibly Harper

Ottawa Sun
Sunday, December 3, 2006

By Greg Weston


MONTREAL -- And the winner is? Stephen Harper. The prime minister should be laughing all the way to the polls after the federal Liberals crowned Stephane Dion their new leader in a wildly unpredictable upset here yesterday.

In choosing the professorial Quebec MP to lead the Grits into the next election, the Liberal party has taken a turn for the bland, if not towards an electoral abyss.

While all of the four frontrunners in the race have considerable political handicaps, Dion's lack of charisma, his broken English and relatively low public profile outside his native Quebec will combine to make him a hard sell in parts of the Maritimes and from Ontario west.

Even in Quebec, Dion's hardline and often strident handling of the unity file has made him a highly polarizing figure and a favourite target of the separatists, a choice for Liberal leader that one Montreal columnist calls "a wet-dream for the Bloc Quebecois."

For a pragmatic party that values power over all else, the road back into office is anything but clear with Dion at the wheel.

A recent SES Research poll for Sun Media suggested that among Canadians who voted Liberal in the last election, Dion's leadership of the party will turn off as many electors as it will attract.

Among Canadians who supported the other parties -- voters the Grits need to poach in order to beat Harper's Conservatives -- the SES poll showed Dion is a liability across the board.

Even Greens express no affinity for the former environment minister, with 27% of those polled saying they would be less likely to support the Liberals with Dion as leader, compared to only 6% who would be more inclined to vote Grit.

But perhaps the most devastating effect of Dion's victory yesterday was the wide and bloody schism it has created in an already fractured party.

The split was palpable even as Dion's winning fourth-ballot support was announced in the packed convention hall, the roaring enthusiasm of his supporters clearly not shared by the thousands of Liberals who sat on their hands, and quietly began leaving before the victory speech.

Lesser of evils?

With the next election likely only months away, there won't be much time for healing among those who would lead the Grits into battle -- namely, the 5,000-odd Liberal organizers, candidates, MPs and other party stalwarts at the convention, almost 82% of whom arrived here backing candidates other than Dion as their first choice for leader.

So, what the heck were they thinking?

Some no doubt concluded Dion was the lesser of evils among the other frontrunners -- Michael Ignatieff, the accident-prone academic; Gerard Kennedy, the former Ontario minister with no Quebec appeal; and Bob Rae, the former NDP premier who rode the country's largest provincial economy into the tank in the 1990s.

But there was something much more powerful at work amid all the hoopla on the floor of the convention, something not seen in decades of leadership races. The Liberal grassroots staged a full-scale revolt, seizing control of the party from the establishment that has forever passed the Grit machine from one group of old-guard insiders to another, every time the leadership changed.

This time, two of the frontrunners were poised to make it happen again -- Rae's senior organization looked like a Jean Chretien reunion; Ignatieff was backed by dozens of MPs, senators and a small army of Grit backroomers.

By comparison, Dion's campaign looked like a coalition of outsiders.

But no one went after delegates with a platform of "reform and renewal" more than Kennedy, promising to put control of Gritdom back in the hands of the long-abused rank-and-file, the door-knockers, stamp-lickers, little Libs and others cherished in elections and quickly forgotten.

New blood

As Kennedy said in his keynote speech on the eve of the voting, what the Liberal party needs more than a new leader is a new party.

They should be careful what they wish for. In a deal sealed in the early hours of yesterday morning, Kennedy suddenly threw his support behind Dion after the second ballot, carrying the vast majority of his delegates with him.

The move vaulted Dion ahead of Rae on the third ballot, and ultimately sealed Ignatieff's defeat in the final vote.

While Dion and Kennedy may have successfully rid the palace of the old guard, there is only one problem. The vanquished happen to include virtually all of the party's experienced election organizers. Oops.

Harper cabinet minister John Baird dropped by the convention, and crowed that the Conservatives are "thrilled the Liberals have a new leader."

No kidding.















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TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adscam; dion; harper; liberals
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1 posted on 12/03/2006 12:35:53 PM PST by GMMAC
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

PING!
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2 posted on 12/03/2006 12:37:15 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

I hope Canadian conservatives do not underestimate this person. The Dims were so happy when Reagan won the primary. We were also so happy when Dean became the DNC chair.


3 posted on 12/03/2006 12:55:31 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: paudio
Know what you mean: "knock on wood"

However, to reassure you, the Stateside parallels to this bunch:
Michael Ignatieff: John Kerry - no medals, otherwise like they were separated at birth!
Bob Rae: - other than the reverse of making other people scream, Howard Dean
Stephane Dion: Al Gore with somewhat less oratorical skill & a heavy French accent.
4 posted on 12/03/2006 1:17:58 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC; fanfan

Did you see the G&M poll? Shall we have some fun freep-style?

Do you think Stephane Dion and the Liberals can defeat Stephen Harper and the Conservatives in the next federal election?

www.theglobeandmail.com


5 posted on 12/03/2006 1:22:27 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: GMMAC

This proves beyond doubt that God has chosen to show favor towards Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his Conservatives.

God Bless Canada! :)


6 posted on 12/03/2006 1:27:28 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: paudio

Going by the article, perhaps the opposition that Canadian conservatives really shouldn't underestimate is the Bloc Quebecois.


7 posted on 12/03/2006 1:42:24 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: timsbella
"Do you think Stephane Dion and the Liberals can defeat Stephen Harper and the Conservatives in the next federal election? "

In 2 words: not likely.
Last week, on a thread here, I called Dion the least probable winner out of the front four because I simply couldn't imagine the Liberals being that politically stupid and, thus, them picking him would be akin to us winning the lottery.

He's despised in Quebec & most everywhere else he'll be viewed as:


8 posted on 12/03/2006 1:43:45 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Stephane Dion - the John Turner of his generation...ya think Ignatieff is going to be the Chretien to follow?


9 posted on 12/03/2006 1:45:37 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: mkjessup
Amen to both!

Sneak preview - General election 2007:


10 posted on 12/03/2006 1:47:46 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC
Another Quebecker as Liberal leader? Great move. Isn't Western Canada fed up with the Quebec dominance of 24 Sussex Drive during recent years?

In the old days, dominating in Quebec + Ontario would win you the election no matter what. Nowadays, BC and Alberta combined are as populous as Quebec. Dominate the West, and win 2/5ths of the ridings in Ontario, 1/3 of Quebec and 1/3 in Atlantic Canada, and you can win a majority - even though Quebec still has 11 more ridings than BC + Alberta. Once that problem gets fixed, Quebec becomes even less relevant. Talk about living in the past!
11 posted on 12/03/2006 1:48:13 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: mkjessup; GMMAC

I like your attitude!


12 posted on 12/03/2006 1:48:16 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: dr_who_2
Going by the article, perhaps the opposition that Canadian conservatives really shouldn't underestimate is the Bloc Quebecois.

Best case scenario, the Bloc takes 60 of Quebec's 75 ridings. But in some areas, if the Bloc candidate looks like he will win and the Liberals don't have a shot or can't stand Dion, people who would otherwise vote Liberal might vote for the Conservatives to make sure the Bloc doesn't win. Some races in Quebec are quickly becoming true 3-way races.
13 posted on 12/03/2006 1:54:25 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: timsbella; GMMAC
Stephane Dion - the John Turner of his generation...ya think Ignatieff is going to be the Chretien to follow?

Not Iggy, Justin.

Dion is the seat warmer.

14 posted on 12/03/2006 1:56:21 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Don't recall where I read it, but someone sagely reported, (to paraphrase) don't let the person that introduces you be more eloquent and capable.

I didn't think Justin was a politico though...time will tell.


15 posted on 12/03/2006 1:58:41 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: GMMAC

Canada continues to move forward out of the mediocrity of socialism while America recedes deeper into it.


16 posted on 12/03/2006 2:02:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: timsbella; GMMAC
I didn't think Justin was a politico though...time will tell.

I heard people were simply trying to get close to him, to touch him, like a God or something.

(Barf)

17 posted on 12/03/2006 2:08:58 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I believe it...the Beatles are popular again thanks to Cirque du Soliel...another Quebec troup.

Justin ain't no Pierre. Canada isn't in the 1960's anymore.


18 posted on 12/03/2006 2:13:56 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: timsbella

LOL!

It's good to grow up.

;-)


19 posted on 12/03/2006 2:17:31 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: timsbella
"... ya think Ignatieff is going to be the Chretien to follow?"

First off, I'd say that depends on whether he even seeks re-election in Toronto-Lakeshore.
You'll recall, one of the many stupid things he said during his leadership run, and later tried to take back, was that he'd be gone if he failed to gain the top job.
Given his readily apparent arrogance, if I had to, I'd bet the first version was the truth.
As I can't even begin to imagine Count Iggy putting in 4 more years, other than as Leader of the Opposition, stuck on the wrong side of the House, to not head back to Hahhh-vard he'd likely require:
1. The Libs so far ahead in the polls as to be virtually assured of forming a government.
2. An absolutely ironclad guarantee from Dion he'd have his pick of Ministerial portfolios. (I'd guess Foreign Minister - maybe plus Deputy PM)

Probably far more dictating he won't, at now 59, Comrade Mikhail is much, much older than either Chretien or Martin were at the time they began their campaigns to undermine their respective leaders. Plus, both were at least a bit younger than their targets while Ignatieff is 7 or 8 years older than Dion.
Bottomline: unless Dion happens to die before Count Iggy hits 60 ...
20 posted on 12/03/2006 2:26:42 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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