Remains of Apostle Paul May Have Been Found

Associated Press (excerpt) ^ | December 6, 2006

[what's up]

Luke 1:46-47 is fairly clear though there is much, much less text devoted to Mary than David in the Bible as you probably well know.

Mary rejoices in God her Savior. She acknowledges that she needed to be saved from sin.

[adiaireton8]

I am not asking you whether she had a Savior; even babies have a Savior in Christ. I am asking you how you know she committed sins.

-A8

[what's up]

Apostles knew her personally, and the youngest one took her in as his Mother when Jesus died, I will defer to THEIR teachings on the matter

That is always a good practice but if you're going to be honest about that you will have to acknowledge that they did not teach that Mary was sinless or was assumed into Heaven.

[what's up]

I am asking you how you know she committed sins

What did she need to be saved from if she did not commit sins?

[hosepipe]

[ No, hosepipe...it is a Catholic belief that Mary ascended into Heaven, just like her Son. ]

I know.. I just wanted somebody(else) to say it so the lurkers could consider the ramifications of it..

[paulat]

;)

[paulat]

What did she need to be saved from if she did not commit sins?

According to Catholic belief...Mary did not carry the burden of Original Sin...the burden that the rest of humanity carries.

In Catholicism, she is considered to be the only pure human being ever.

[Candor7]

I doubt its Paul, but if so, whats the big deal. If they found the burial site og Jodeph of Arimathea, then I would do a Holy Grail handstand!

OOOOOoops , I forgot that the grail lineage is not PC! ( sarc). Why elese would they be derching for the bones but to have a new novel? Its perfect, the bones glowin the dark as several sleuths conive to steal the bones, trace their keepers of ancient lineage, and read to secret codex of the lost epistle of Paul, that was kept secret but for initiates of the Order of the Glowing Sarcophagous?

Oh the propaganda that men decompose!

[what's up]

I'm aware of Catholic teaching.

But Mary herself claims that she needed a Savior (as every human being other than Christ does).

[paulat]

But Mary herself claims that she needed a Savior (as every human being other than Christ does).

Mary was a Jew...of COURSE she wanted a Messiah.

[adiaireton8]

In Catholicism, she is considered to be the only pure human being ever.

No. Catholicism teaches that Jesus Christ was a pure (i.e. sinless) human being, and that Mary's sinlessness was due to Christ.

-A8

[paulat]

No. Catholicism teaches that Jesus Christ was a pure (i.e. sinless) human being, and that Mary's sinlessness was due to Christ.

A Jesuetical fine point I will grant.

[narses]

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[rogator]

"...it is a Catholic belief that Mary ascended into Heaven, just like her Son."

Actually it is the belief of both Orthodox and Catholic Christians that Mary WAS ASSUMED into heaven.
She did not ascend like her Son.

[paulat]

Please don't be a jerk...I CLEARLY named the Feast of the Assumption....

No, hosepipe...it is a Catholic belief that Mary ascended into Heaven, just like her Son. The belief is that she was the only totally pure human being.

The Catholic church celebrates the Feast of the Assumption.

Google has a lot of information

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks indcons. It does, but it's just shown up as a different topic, so no ping, alas.

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[SunkenCiv]

alas... although you did use AP instead of Pravda (six of one...):

Vatican archaeologists unearth St. Paul's tomb
Pravda | December 6, 2006
Posted on 12/06/2006 9:18:21 AM EST by NYer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1749237/posts

[SuziQ]

That is always a good practice but if you're going to be honest about that you will have to acknowledge that they did not teach that Mary was sinless or was assumed into Heaven.

How else would that tradition have started? BTW Mary's home in Ephesus is still an honored site, even by the Muslims who live there, who honor Mary as the mother of Jesus.

[woofie]

well anyway I like it

[bonfire]

what is the difference between "assumed" (taken up) and ascention? (moving upward)