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FYI: Outgoing Santorum votes AGAINST Gates (SecDef Nomination) (mocks 'talking' with Iran)
Washington Post ^ | 12/7/2996 | Washington Post

Posted on 12/07/2006 6:12:52 AM PST by FreedomNeocon

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Overall, 52 Republicans, 42 Democrats and one independent voted for Gates. Three lawmakers _ Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C. _ did not vote.

Two Bush allies, Sens. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and Jim Bunning, R-Ky., voted against Gates, citing his criticism of the war and his view that the U.S. should engage Iran as part of a solution.

"Mr. Gates has repeatedly criticized our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan without providing any viable solutions to the problems our troops currently face," Bunning said. "We need a secretary of defense to think forward with solutions and not backward on history we cannot change."

Santorum, who lost his re-election bid last month, mocked the idea of engaging dictators and talked at length of the evils of "radical Islamic fascism." When it comes to reaching out to Iran to discuss the security of Iraq, Santorum said of Gates, "I think he is in error."

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KEYWORDS: 2008; gates; hero; patriot; realman; santorum
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To: Nancee; MadIvan

Mornin' Nancee,

Yes, even if Rick Santorum runs and loses in the primary it will be a precursor for the real run in '12 or '16.

You know I have a theory that McPain_in_the_poopa will lose in the primaries, will run as an Independent, and hand it to the RATS by knocking out the GOP candidate.

However, I still say that the primaries debates will show Rick to be a worthwhile candidate for the next time around.


61 posted on 12/07/2006 7:38:25 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Wormwood
I further maintain that he is unelectable by a majority of Americans.

I agree with that, right now.

I got to believe that intellectual honesty will not always incur the political death penalty, as it does now.

Rick's an odd duck, embracing SocSec reform in a state where it guaranteed him a loss, as its population is so dang old. Just another example of the man's honesty.

62 posted on 12/07/2006 7:39:17 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Rick Santorum in 2008, or 2012 or whenever we get serious about Islamofascism.)
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To: Wormwood
Yet you're a proud Goldwater republican? Well, I'm a proud Santorum republican.

IMHO there will be a disaster coming inolving Gates as Sec. of Defense.

63 posted on 12/07/2006 7:39:23 AM PST by Williams
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To: Wormwood
I further maintain that he is unelectable by a majority of Americans.

This is sadly true. But a primary run in order to keep the party at least somewhat attentive to life/border/security issues wouldn't be all bad.

64 posted on 12/07/2006 7:40:29 AM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: melancholy
Mornin' to You, too, "melancholy"!

"Yes, even if Rick Santorum runs and loses in the primary it will be a precursor for the real run in '12 or '16."

I like your thinking!

Nancee

65 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:42 AM PST by Nancee
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To: philsfan24

Would New Jersey take NYC too.


66 posted on 12/07/2006 7:43:44 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: USS Alaska
So you'd settle for more hillary.

No, you got me confused or I got you confused.

Sorry.

67 posted on 12/07/2006 7:47:22 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: FreedomNeocon; Nancee

A total misunderstanding of the ME thought process:

Negotiator = weak -------> loser

Gates is a loser BEFORE he starts to negotiate. He's supposed to be the rock behind our troops. He comes in with a near-unanimous vote by pleasing everybody.

Last time I checked; you don't win ANY war by pleasing everybody. If everybody is pleased and even calling you victorious you must have lost BIG!


68 posted on 12/07/2006 7:48:14 AM PST by melancholy
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To: FreedomNeocon
I'm really hoping we see more of Rick coming up to 2008... ;)

Us too!!!

69 posted on 12/07/2006 7:49:49 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: chimera
Anyone who calls himself a conservative and voted for Casey over Santorum must have rocks in his head

I agree. I just don't understand it.

70 posted on 12/07/2006 7:50:10 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: melancholy
"Gates is a loser BEFORE he starts to negotiate. He's supposed to be the rock behind our troops. He comes in with a near-unanimous vote by pleasing everybody."

AMEN!!!

Nancee

71 posted on 12/07/2006 7:53:02 AM PST by Nancee
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To: RockinRight

Yep.... Philthydelphia does belong in NJ.


72 posted on 12/07/2006 7:53:10 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Nancee

Then why don't you nudge him a li'l? LOL


73 posted on 12/07/2006 7:53:53 AM PST by melancholy
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To: FreedomNeocon

This really good man should in all fairness be our next President.


74 posted on 12/07/2006 7:54:02 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: FreedomNeocon

Santorum For President!


75 posted on 12/07/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by Gritty (Iran and Syria will stabilize Iraq the way Germany and Russia stabilized Poland in '39 - Ann Coulter)
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To: melancholy
Santorum needs to re-establish a base in his home state. A two term incumbent who lost his Senate seat by 12 points despite having no personal scandal does not augur well for his electability on a national scale.

Santorum was born in Winchester, VA. Pennsylvania may be drifting into the deep blue condition of the other Northeastern states. He might consider re-establishing a career in the state of his birth, which has not yet fully gone over to the dark side.

76 posted on 12/07/2006 8:05:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: 3AngelaD
Chamberlain would tell you, don't do it. He learned his lesson, which is why after Hitler broke the Munich agreement, Chamberlain actually took us to war.

The difference between Chamberlain and the Democrats can be thus summarised - one could learn, the other will never learn.

Regards, Ivan

77 posted on 12/07/2006 8:06:56 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: melancholy
"Then why don't you nudge him a li'l? LOL"

Now why didn't I think of that?

Maybe I'll just give him a call and suggest it; what do you think? Or........I could make a trip to Pittsburgh and flat out tell him in person!!

Who knows, maybe I will!

:-)

Nancee

78 posted on 12/07/2006 8:08:00 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Wallace T.
He might consider re-establishing a career in the state of his birth, which has not yet fully gone over to the dark side.

Point well taken.

79 posted on 12/07/2006 8:17:01 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Nancee

:-)


80 posted on 12/07/2006 8:17:55 AM PST by melancholy
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