Posted on 12/07/2006 10:25:52 AM PST by Sabramerican
Exactly right. And this is the real tragedy here.
And it is official. Some elite in the media has described Carter as certfiably the most left-wing ex-president in history (which gives Team Clinton a break, as they have only completed half their planned ascendancy to power).
"May all his teeth fall out, except for one so he should have a terrible toothache!"
You are right. One would think if this story's premise were true (Reagan won because American Jews sensed Carter's antipathy to their cause)then they might have "sense" that the "destroy Israel" terrorist's endorsement of the dims was not in the best interest of Jews. Yet, they voted over 80 percent dim.
Go figure.
JINO's!
Leftists like Carter and most Jews are leftist absolutists first, and religion is waaaayyy down their list of priorities.
Since Leftism requires the destruction of Western Civilization as a prerequisite of their program, any font of Western Civilization (Israel, the Catholic Church, private property, equality before the law) must be also
destroyed.
Well,...I can't think of everything, can I??
Carter is just a bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical anti-Semite (among many other similarly wonderful character traits). The fact that he's come out of the closet about it so much in the last few years may be a symptom of the times we're in, or of his travel down the road toward complete senility (or both). I used to think that he was just a good-willed imbecile, but over the last few years I have come to realize that he is a truly malevolent being, a black-hearted hater of the worst sort.
I always despised the simpleton - geez, the moron cannot even correctly say the word "nuclear." How did Rickover ever let a guy who said "nukear" get through the sub program? He never had a clue about the Soviet threat, and his failure to act against the Ayatollas in Iran during the hostage crisis was the cream on the cake. The only good thing that he did was to not touch the gun issue, but I think that he was probably too busy screwing up the country with other things to even bother.
If he was on fire I wouldn't pi$$ on him to put out the flames.
I have a different opinion. I've known quite a few liberal Jews, most all of them support Israel, often with donations. They also vote Democrat. I think the Jewish tradtion of cherishing leftism causes them to simply overlook leftist antisemitism.
"Peanut Boy" got it handed to him on C-Span!
You're right. If Israel is the issue, I just can't understand why Jews would vote for the party of such anti Israel folks as Pelosi/Hoyer/Schumer/Emanuel and against such Israeli supporters as Bush/Rice/Baker.
I'm certain if Pelosi has a press conference like Bush had today, it also would repeatetly praise terrorist Abbas, insist that more needs to be done to arm and support him, and take pride in being the first to call for a "Palestinian" State.
That's right, I got Bar Mitzvah lessons and indoctrination in Mao's teachings all at the same time. I remember those days fondly because at the end of the lessons, we always got milk and Gentile blood cookies. Also a tradition.
"I would guess that most American Jews are secular Jews and don't give a damn what happens to Israel."
Having just argued with my kinsman regarding whether Exodus was a "fairy tale generated by escaped Jews living in caves near Egypt" I tend to agree with you.
From the Opinion Journal:
A longtime aide to Jimmy Carter has resigned from the Carter Center think tank, calling the former president's new book on Israel and the Arabs one-sided and filled with errors," the Associated Press reports. "Kenneth Stein, the Carter Center's first executive director and founder of its Middle East program, sent a letter that bluntly criticized the book to Carter and others."
Power Line has the text:
President Carter's book on the Middle East, a title too inflammatory to even print, is not based on unvarnished analyses; it is replete with factual errors, copied materials not cited, superficialities, glaring omissions, and simply invented segments. Aside from the one-sided nature of the book, meant to provoke, there are recollections cited from meetings where I was the third person in the room, and my notes of those meetings show little similarity to points claimed in the book. Being a former President does not give one a unique privilege to invent information or to unpack it with cuts, deftly slanted to provide a particular outlook.
Stein says he'll elaborate on these points "in due course." The Jewish Virtual Library has some quotes from Carter's presidency that show he has changed his tune on the Mideast.
This is from a Feb. 25, 1980, speech to United Jewish Appeal National Young Leadership Conference:
I am opposed to an independent Palestinian state, because in my own judgment and in the judgment of many leaders in the Middle East, including Arab leaders, this would be a destabilizing factor in the Middle East and would certainly not serve the United States' interests.
And this is from a "White House joint conference" the following month, on the occasion of the first anniversary of the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt:
We oppose the creation of an independent Palestinian state. The United States, as all of you know, has a warm and unique relationship of friendship with Israel that is morally right. It is compatible with our deepest religious convictions, and it is right in terms of America's own strategic interests. . . .
We are committed to Israel's right to live in peace with all its neighbors, within secure and recognized borders, free from terrorism. We are committed to a Jerusalem that will forever remain undivided with free
How much of the Jewish vote in 1980 went to John Anderson? As a liberal Republican, he was well placed to get votes from people fed up with Carter who couldn't bear to think of voting for the offical nominee of the Republican Party.
Not all Jews have been leftists, and not all are today, but it is not deniable that leftism has been very strong among European and American Jews for the last 100 years and more. I do view it as a tradition that has been handed down from generation to generation in a very large segment of Jewish society. Perhaps since during the last 30 years or so, Jews have been allowed more access to American society, many will abandon their left wing tradition, and move to a more traditionally "liberal" one. OTOH, other Americans seem to be giving up the old "liberal" tradtions with which the country was started.
I use the word cherish, and find it appropriate, because my view is that Jews hold to leftism in the belief that it will benefit humanity. Tikkun Olam, repair the world, as my rabbi used to say. FWIW, the top guy at the Hebrew School where my kids went was pretty much of a socialist, though I don't think they spoke of gentile blood or anything. The rabbi was an avowed leftist, but a good man who meant well in spite of that.
It just occurred to me a possible reason why the Jewish Community has never been persuaded to vote for republicans since Reagan (and 40% ain't really all that anyway.) The candidates they've had have been named Bush, for one thing, but what I'm getting at is they've been southernors, especially Bush 43. Carter may have colored many northeastern jewish people's views of the whole south, not just the rats.
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