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1 posted on 12/12/2006 9:20:35 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

And we should tell them that any action on their part which interrupts our oil supply will result in our kicking their sorry asses into the stratosphere.


2 posted on 12/12/2006 9:23:45 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: neverdem

NY Times..........nevermind.


5 posted on 12/12/2006 9:34:27 PM PST by Just Lori (Blessed are the peacemakers: ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, MARINES, COAST GUARD!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Here's a grim what if back at them. What if we do nothing and let the Shiites and Sunni fight to the death sucking in all Arab nations and a nuclear Iran?


6 posted on 12/12/2006 9:37:37 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: neverdem

I wonder just how much of Saudi Arabia could be overrun by the 100,000+ soldiers currently in Iraq? Then the Saudis ability to support the Sunnis in Iraq would be reduced to near zero from oil revenue. The Saudis would be fools to issue any sort of ultimatum to the U.S. that involved the threat of military action as they could not possibly prevent the U.S. from an overwhelming victory against their forces.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 9:39:42 PM PST by Poodlebrain
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To: neverdem

What we really should do is start building the plants to turn all our coal reserves into oil/fuel. That will hit them where it counts.


8 posted on 12/12/2006 9:48:44 PM PST by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: neverdem
The Shiites aren't any better than the Sunnis. Most of the people of both of these groups in Iraq are worthless pieces of sh*t with a minority of good people. We just need to use them against each other. We wanted to help the Shiites deal with Saddam's regime and we want the Sunnis to help deal with Iran. We should have never tried to rebuild Iraq in the first place.

Once we won the war in Iraq and got all the intelligence we needed we should have pulled out our troops and let Iraqis fight among themselves. Then we would have all the forces we would need in Iran and we wouldn't have lost so much support from the American people.

Of course we would be criticized by some for the violence that erupted after the war but it wouldn't have been near the scale it is today.
10 posted on 12/12/2006 10:04:07 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: neverdem

And why should this be a concern? part of the plan?


12 posted on 12/12/2006 10:23:12 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: neverdem
This is Dubyah's plan "B" in case congress succeeds in cutting funding for the war in Iraq.

I think it is brilliant.

17 posted on 12/12/2006 11:03:42 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: neverdem

Saber rattling has such an authentic tone when it comes from the Middle East


18 posted on 12/12/2006 11:06:58 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: neverdem
What's so grim? One set of satan worshipers murdering another set of satan worshipers. I fail to see the grim of it. They have been at this conflict ever since the original mohamicidal maniac took his final dirtnap/shortbus to hell.

As long as they dont aquire nukes, and they murder each other over in satans litter box, WGAF?

19 posted on 12/12/2006 11:14:07 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: neverdem
The amazing thing to me is that Saudi Arabia manages to float above all the violence right next door, as if it were on a completely different continent or something. The Saudis supposedly are our allies - why shouldn't they be involved in some fashion militarily and financially - I mean, involved other than by producing terrorists like Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers and all.
20 posted on 12/12/2006 11:14:54 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: neverdem
This is floated in the NYTimes immediately after Baker's ISG report, bought and paid for by the Sauds, is roundly rejected.
23 posted on 12/13/2006 12:30:01 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: neverdem

the east has tested the west (with oil prices) and found the west to be weak and easily pay extortion

there will be no end to the " If the west does this or that "... even jumping through hoops for their entertainment


25 posted on 12/13/2006 2:35:48 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: neverdem

26 posted on 12/13/2006 3:20:35 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: neverdem

We need to skip the war part and fast forward to the US occupation of Islamistan.
Seriously, the world needs for us to divvy up all the oil with relatively sane folks like the Russians.
Or discover a lost page of the Koran where fuel oil is on the not-to-do list along with graven images and bacon.


29 posted on 12/13/2006 4:48:17 AM PST by Graymatter (before your time)
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To: neverdem

How ironic - Muslims, that really know Muslims, are telling us that "Cut-N-Run" would be a major disater for all.


33 posted on 12/13/2006 5:07:44 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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A war of brutal savagery would kill even OUR ALLIES in Iraq, both Sunni and Shia. Those who have been putting their lives on the line for a free Iraq. That is fine with a lot of you.

Not with me, and not with our leaders and military who work with these people side by side every day, and have already seen the violence kill numbers of their family members. The Sunni VP who sat with the President yesterday has risked everything to become part of the Iraq Government, and in return one after the other of his close family members have been gunned down. Sean Hannity and Ollie North interview soldier after soldier who are laying their lives on the line to work side by side building the Iraqi Army. They consider it their life's calling and are proud to work with these willing Iraqis.

Not to mention, any wide war in that area of the world would be a catastrophe for the Oil situation.
But go ahead with your blood lusts, DUmmies.






35 posted on 12/13/2006 5:14:46 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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Not to mention, any wide war in that area of the world would be a catastrophe for the Oil situation.


But go ahead with your blood lusts, DUmmies.







36 posted on 12/13/2006 5:18:24 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: neverdem; Candor7; Alas Babylon!; All

This article contradicts the NYT premise:

Saudi Arabia Fires Security Consultant for Iraq Remarks

PHILADELPHIA, Dec. 6 -- Saudi Arabia said Wednesday it had fired a security adviser who wrote in The Washington Post that the world's top oil exporter would intervene in Iraq once the United States withdrew troops.

Saudi Arabia's government said last weekend that there was no truth in Nawaf Obaid's Nov. 29 op-ed column, which suggested that the kingdom would back Iraq's Sunni Muslims in the event of a wider sectarian conflict.

Obaid stressed in the column that the views were his own and not those of the Saudi government.

"We felt that we could add more credibility to his claims as an independent contractor by terminating our consultancy agreement with him," Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, told the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia.

The article said that the kingdom would intervene with funding and weaponry to prevent Shiite militias from attacking Iraq's Sunnis and suggested that Saudi Arabia could bring down world oil prices to squeeze Shiite power in Iran.

"There is no basis in truth to the article by the writer Nawaf Obaid in The Washington Post of November 29, 2006," the state Saudi Press Agency quoted an "official source" as saying last week.

(snip)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120601821.html


38 posted on 12/13/2006 5:33:24 AM PST by debg
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To: neverdem

Well, ain't that special. How many troops did the Saudi's contribute to the Iraq war effort? Time and again, our "allies" are content to let us do the heavy lifting and the dirty work, serving their interests, all the while kicking us in the teeth (check out Saudi funding of little terrorist schools around the world - the Madrassas), but when it looks like we want to pull out - OHHHH - HO- HO-Ho...THEN the little self-centered s-bags come out crying about what it's going to do their little pampered butts.

F' the House of Saud. I hope they all swing from oil rigs in short order.


43 posted on 12/13/2006 6:18:56 AM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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