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Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) suffers possible stroke(Update Spokesman says NO stroke)
MSNBC

Posted on 12/13/2006 12:46:10 PM PST by leadpenny

Edited on 12/13/2006 2:04:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Mo1

Harry Reid may have a heart attack worrying over Senator Johnson.


641 posted on 12/14/2006 5:01:34 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: YourAdHere
WaPo sez, at 7:44AM, that he's out, alive but critical, no further info.

Probably an aneurysm, probably leaked, probably bad location (My best guess, not from WaPo).

We'll have to wait for the press conference, "later this morning".

642 posted on 12/14/2006 5:02:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Chairman, FR Rudy for President 2008 Caucus)
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To: WashingtonSource
Harry Reid may have a heart attack worrying over Senator Johnson.

I'm praying for Senator Johnson.

I'm also praying that Jack Abramoff gives up Harry Reid soon.

643 posted on 12/14/2006 5:03:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (Chairman, FR Rudy for President 2008 Caucus)
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To: All

Brain surgery...that's almost as complicated as rocket science...


644 posted on 12/14/2006 5:04:07 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: Mo1

My diagnosis..... TIA Transient Ischemic Attack

The surgery is the rotorooter operation, the routing out of the caratoid artery.

The corotid artery develops plaque buildup and must be scraped clean. Once the blockage is removed, blood flow resumes.


645 posted on 12/14/2006 5:04:13 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

And Gaia is a pagan goddess who doesn't exist.


646 posted on 12/14/2006 5:07:34 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Hokay. So did he have a stroke, or didn't he?

When I left the newsroom last night, the last word from his staff was that he didn't suffer a stroke, but was being examined by a doctor. They implied (never actually said it, now that I think of it) that he was suffering from some form of exhaustion. I.e., he was just plain tired.

While I have hopes and prayers for Johnson's speedy recovery, I have to wonder how long before the rumor mills and conspiracy theorists get cranking....

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

647 posted on 12/14/2006 5:08:22 AM PST by mhking (I make my livin' on the evening news....)
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To: RushCrush
My mother (only 58 years old) suffered a level 4 aneurysm in July of this year. She was in a coma for 2 weeks and hospitalized for 91 days. She currently is physically fine but not able to understand or communicate with us. Her speech is garbled and her understanding at about 50%.

My mom had an aneurysm at 52. It burst. After she spent three weeks in a coma, making slow but steady progress while the doctors hoped to make her well enough and strong enough for corrective surgery, it burst again, and at that point all hope was gone. She never regained consciousness, and we let her go.

Because I went through that, I have a tiny bit of insight. When I'm faced with a big scary thing I don't understand, I research it. That's my coping mechanism.

An aneurysm, or a subdural hematoma, is what doctors call a "brain bleed." A "stroke" is when brain tissue dies, either because of a lack of blood or because of pressure caused by bleeding in the skull cavity. Not every bleed causes a stroke, though they're often treated as synonyms.

It sounds to me like Sen. Johnson had some sort of bleeding, or obstructed or impeded blood flow, in his brain. That got called a "stroke" along the way, but the real extent of damage is something we don't know yet. I hope and pray that the Senator will wake up some time soon and wonder what happened.

648 posted on 12/14/2006 5:15:00 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: bert

A TIA is considered a stroke in the generic sense and it's being reported by several sources that it is NOT a stroke.


649 posted on 12/14/2006 5:21:36 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: John W
Grandpa always said "Pray for a happy death".

"I always wanted to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather -- not screaming in terror like his passengers." -- Jack Handey

650 posted on 12/14/2006 5:24:05 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Reagan80
Buck here

I said basically the same thing you said.Would it not be great if he accepted Christ and had a change of heart.A real conversion would surely mean he would have to switch parties,cross the floor.Anything else would be unsatisfactory.This is also his second health scare,the first one had no impact on him.Let`s hope this one does!!!

If not I hope he retires and is unable to serve in the senate.

You would rather have him be the difference in getting a conservative judge to the high court??

I guess it boils down to this...do we really believe that abortion is murder.

Ronald Reagan....why is it that everyone that supports abortion,has already been born.

I say get all the pro abortion people out of the senate,regardless of party.
651 posted on 12/14/2006 5:25:48 AM PST by thepresidentsbestfriend (Comparing democrats to human waste, is a insult to the human waste!)
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To: streetpreacher

Swift boat veterans for truth are Heroes!


652 posted on 12/14/2006 5:27:07 AM PST by thepresidentsbestfriend (Comparing democrats to human waste, is a insult to the human waste!)
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To: shhrubbery!
Seems to me it would be pretty hard for most of us at FR to send ol' Ted "best wishes."

If it was Ted Kennedy, I would just flat out wouldn't comment.

653 posted on 12/14/2006 5:29:39 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Where is my Reagan, Don't say it's John McCain. Where have all the conservatives gone? - P.Shanklin)
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To: ReignOfError
An aneurysm, or a subdural hematoma, is what doctors call a "brain bleed."

Just to clarify, an aneurysm and a hematoma are two completely different things. They're both bleeds, but the similarity ends there. The above could be read as treating the two as synonyms, and while I'm several kinds of dumbass, that's not one of mine.

654 posted on 12/14/2006 5:33:25 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: mhking

Sounding more and more like an aneurysm, and not good news for Johnson and family.


655 posted on 12/14/2006 5:36:16 AM PST by steveegg (UNNNNGGGHHHH! Seeking new state, will travel)
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To: traderrob6

......A TIA is considered a stroke....

In my view a TIA is "stroke like" in that vessels outside the head have a blockage reducing blood flow. A stroke on the other hand is a blockage or vessel leakage within the head.

I have experience with both parents and TIA. One had the events numerous times and always recovered. The other had TIA events and one required the rotorooter surgery right away. The tape being played is similar to the precise events prior to the TIA requiring surgery.

Given the "Fog of War" and the general press failure, A TIA can't be ruled out.


656 posted on 12/14/2006 5:41:01 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: minus_273

There is nothing "scummy" about a Republican governor appointing a Republican Senator to replace an incapacitated Senator. If the people of South Dakota were afraid of this happening, they'd have elected a Democrat governor. As close as Johnson's race was, it's not at all clear that there is any consensus on what party the people want their Senator to be from.


657 posted on 12/14/2006 6:24:22 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: acapesket

short answer is I suppose: To Osama Obama, Clinton, Biden, Dodd & Kerry. If you don't show for these one a week votes we are scheduling for your convenience on major issues, it will be obvious that the things you are campaigning on that fail in the Senate will be because you didn't show for the vote. Wouldn't look too good...........


658 posted on 12/14/2006 6:26:45 AM PST by scannell
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To: OldFriend
I simply said ........

No offense intended.

659 posted on 12/14/2006 6:28:14 AM PST by scannell
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To: OldFriend

Thank you very much, I really appreciate that.


660 posted on 12/14/2006 6:36:40 AM PST by RushCrush (Reporting live from the holy city of Chicago)
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