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U.S. Muslim Writer Agitates for Citizens to Disarm -- JPFO Fires Back
JPFO ^ | 1/8/07 | The Liberty Crew

Posted on 01/10/2007 8:24:49 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Another “think tank,” this one called the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding (ISPU), has come out for total civilian disarmament and repeal of the Second Amendment.

What’s new about that? ISPU is openly pro-Muslim, and the ISPU writer is a criminal defense attorney who argues for repealing parts of the Bill of Rights.

You can read the whole article, entitled “In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed,” by Junaid Afeef, on the ISPU website:

http://www.ispu.us/pages/articles/2914/articleDetailPB.html

A JPFO supporter sent us the link, and we did read the article, looking for:

a. Inaccurate “facts” b. Missing data and support for factual claims c. Tricks in shifting the context or changing the subject d. Statements of opinion presented as though they were unquestionable facts e. Insults, innuendoes and smears f. Key facts or considerations that are totally ignored g. Logic errors

We found many errors, fallacies, propaganda tricks, and an outright lie or two. When you read the piece, see how many you can find.

Or – you can go directly to our analysis and response to the article, entitled “A Muslim Writer Tells America: Drop Your Guns and Give Up" at www.jpfo.org/dropguns.pdf

We take the ISPU article apart, paragraph by paragraph. Some of the points may be familiar to you, but there are a few new twists.

Do we expect to convince ISPU or Mr. Afeef of the errors of their position? Not really. We are publishing a response so that gun owners and rights supporters can keep their intellectual guns polished and powder dry.

The enemies of the Bill of Rights come in all flavors. We can never rest, thinking that we have answered all of their challenges.

Let us know what you think after reading our response.

The Liberty Crew


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To: GrouchoTex

"Go tell Habib and his ilk the same thing the Texans told the Santa Anna and the Mexicans, "Come and take it!" "

I prefer to go a bit further back in history and tell Ishmael and his ilk the same thing the Spartan King Leonidas I told the Persian Emporer Xerxes I when told that his and his men's lives would be spared if they dropped their weapons: "Molon Labe!" (Come and take them!) http://www.thefiringline.com/HCI/molon_labe.htm


81 posted on 01/10/2007 2:02:48 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Red_Devil 232

Oh, how I long for a high-level American politician to have the guts to say those things. Its not a matter of being jingoistic, etc., it is a matter of national and cultural survival. Those who want to come here from somewhere else are welcome, provided they respect our people, laws, institutions, language and sovereignty. All others are, as it was stated, free to exercise yet another of our freedoms, the freedom to leave (or, as the English say it, to "go sod off."


82 posted on 01/10/2007 2:10:35 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: kiriath_jearim

Another day of al Qaeda and democrats marching arm-in-arm in perfect lockstep. When will Americans (excluding present company) wake up?


83 posted on 01/10/2007 2:15:03 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: kiriath_jearim

Every last Muslim on the planet is a waste of air and space.
EVERY
LAST
ONE!
There are no words for how much I loathe and abhorr everything Islamic.


84 posted on 01/10/2007 2:15:19 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Just a couple of comments....

The framers of the Constitution saw the right to bear and use arms as a check against an unruly government. That state of affairs no longer exists.

Gee... I wonder why?
Lets look at this logic.
The Anwar Dam costs a fortune to keep up, and the Nile hasn't flooded since the dam was built so they really don't need the dam now do they?
The Hoover Dam... Another example of government waste. They built the thing so the western states wouldn't run out of electricity. Well, just look at how much it costs in upkeep and the western states have NEVER run short on power, so we really don't need it then do we?

He certainly has no concept of cause and effect does he? This guy has GOT TO have help - nobody is that stupid on their own!


Today, only a handful of citizens outside of neo-nazi and white supremacist goups view gun ownership as a means of keeping the government in check.

An assault on the Second Amendment will impact a much more powerful constituency.


Well... If only a handful of my fellow citizens supported our Constitution, then the "constituency" wouldn't be a problem now would it?
85 posted on 01/10/2007 2:20:01 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Ancesthntr
Ancesthntr, the best reply ever given about 'gun-control' was from Jackie Mason, when asked about it by Penn & Teller on their TV show, 'BULLSH*T!'.

He replied: Anybody who is FOR gun control is a fu*king moron!

Says it all ............ FRegards

86 posted on 01/10/2007 2:26:11 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

And the Left is afraid of armed Christian conservatives.

Reminds me of the old union song, "Which side are you on boys? Which side are you on?"


87 posted on 01/10/2007 2:28:26 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Ancesthntr
Oops, forgot to mention - member: JPFO, GOA, NRA!

Geez, how could I forget?!............FRegards

88 posted on 01/10/2007 2:29:45 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: jan in Colorado; Just A Nobody; AmericanArchConservative
Institute for Social Policy and Understanding

Scholars

ISPU has brought together some of the finest scholars, thinkers and policy analysts in the country. Each is committed to solving the most critical social problems in the United States through education, research, training, and policy analysis.

Aamir Rehman (Research Associate) Harvard Business School Harvard University

Dr. Abdulaziz Sachedina (Adjunct Scholar) Professor University of Virginia

Dr. Abdul Basit (Fellow) Assistant Professor of Psychiatry & Director of Multi-cultural Mental Health Services Northwestern University

Dr. Akbar Ahmed (Adjunct Scholar) Professor & Chair of Islamic Studies American University

Dr. Aminah McCloud (Adjunct Scholar) Professor DePaul University

Arshad Ahmed (Research Associate) Civil Rights Attorney

Dr. Asifa Quraishi (Adjunct Scholar) Assistant Professor of Law University of Wisconsin-Madison

Dr. Benjamin Powell (Fellow) Director Center on Entrepreneurial Innovation The Independent Institute

Dr. Ejaz Akram (Adjunct Scholar) Professor American University, Cairo

Farid Senzai (Fellow) Ph.D. Candidate Oxford University

Dr. Fawaz Gerges (Adjunct Scholar) Professor Sarah Lawrence College

Graham Fuller (Fellow) Political Consultant RAND Corporation

Dr. Heather Janisse (Fellow) Project Director: Research Group on Homelessness and Poverty

Dr. Ihsan Bagby (Fellow) Professor University of Kentucky

Dr. Ivan Eland (Fellow) Director Center On Peace & Liberty The Independent Institute

Dr. Jack Shaheen (Adjunct Scholar) Professor Emeritus Southern Illinois University

Dr. James Piscatori (Adjunct Scholar) Professor Oxford University

James Hanley (Fellow) Professor & Dept. Chair Adrian College

Dr. Joseph Lumbard (Adjunct Scholar) Professor American University, Cairo

Jumani Vasi (Research Associate) University of Michigan

Junaid Afeef (Research Associate) Attorney

Dr. Linda Forsyth Weidenhamer ISPU Fellow

Dr. Muneer Fareed (Fellow) Professor Wayne State University

Dr. Muqtedar Khan (Fellow) Professor Adrian College

Omar Ezzeldine (Fellow) UCLA

Dr. Paul Toro (Fellow) Director: Research Group on Homelessness and Poverty

Saeed Khan (Fellow) Ph.D. Candidate Wayne State University

Dr. Sherman Jackson (Adjunct Scholar) Professor University of Michigan

Simon Chamberlin (Fellow) Ph.D.Candidate Oxford University

Dr. Sulayman Nyang (Adjunct Scholar) Professor Howard University

Umar Mogul (Research Associate) Civil Rights Attorney

Dr. Yvonne Haddad (Adjunct Scholar) Professor Georgetown University

Zareena Grewal (Fellow) Post-Doctoral Candidate Yale University

http://www.ispu.us/pages/Sections/scholars/pageDetailPB.html

89 posted on 01/10/2007 2:48:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: backtothestreets
He is from India. Seem my Post #73 for how we should be treating ALL IMMIGRANTS and illegals shhould just be deported!!!
90 posted on 01/10/2007 2:48:50 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wku man
Good afternoon.

A good way to spend $15.00 is to buy the 2 CDs from Surplusrifle.com. The two discs contain everything that was ever put on that good site.

With them, you can learn the basics of care and use for most older guns you are likely to come across, and print out manuals for many others.

The site is going away because of illness and it will be sorely missed.

Michael Frazier
91 posted on 01/10/2007 3:03:34 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: kiriath_jearim

LOCKED AND LOADED.


92 posted on 01/10/2007 3:13:58 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: DCBryan1
“In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed,” by Junaid Afeef, on the ISPU website:

Hey, Junaid don't be a chicken come to my house and demand my gun don't try and get the government to do it for you.
93 posted on 01/10/2007 3:36:49 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: DCBryan1

Even a liberal like Hubert Humphrey knew why there has to be a Second Amendment:

Sen. Hubert Humphrey's statement, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, Feb. 1960, p. 4 (1960): "Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."

Then again if Old Hubert were alive today he would wonder who was running Minneapolis today. Oh that's right, it's the communists he ran out of the DFL! They're baaaaaaaaaack!


94 posted on 01/10/2007 3:44:06 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Dhimmis for Gun Control endorsed ISPU's position.


95 posted on 01/10/2007 3:48:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: kiriath_jearim
ISPU is openly pro-Muslim

Do the Muzzies really think we are that stupid?

96 posted on 01/10/2007 3:59:40 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: 3AngelaD
How do you liek this littel gem?

It is no longer safe for the public to carry guns. Gun violence is increasingly widespread in the United States.

The aurthor suggests that the problems is with armed, law-abiding citizens instead of the armed criminals and the solution is to disarm the law abiding!

97 posted on 01/10/2007 4:57:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: gonzo
Anybody who is FOR gun control is a fu*king moron!

That is most emphatically not true. Many people campaign for gun control for the purpose of putting themselves and their friends in a position of superiority over those foolish enough to disarm.

98 posted on 01/10/2007 5:03:10 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: pookie18

Have you seen this one?


99 posted on 01/10/2007 5:48:29 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: Joe Brower

bollocks. rather, say: yet another reason to buy a few extra, so as to be able to arm your neighbors should need arise.


100 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:57 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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