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Clinton, Carter to Lead Faction of Baptists Away from Biblical Truth on Life and Family
Lifesite ^ | Jan 11, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 01/11/2007 3:00:34 PM PST by wouldntbprudent

Former Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter needed their Southern Baptist credentials during their political years in order to boost their electoral appeal. Now the pair, who have both been publicly criticized in the past by Southern Baptist Convention leaders, are helping to move the denomination against life and family as they did the country.

At the Carter Center in Atlanta Tuesday, Clinton and Carter were on hand to announce a 2008 Baptist convocation which hopes to attract 20,000 Baptists from North America. They say it hopes to recast the Baptist image as less 'negative and judgemental'. The tentative date for the convocation is Jan. 30-Feb. 1, 2008 at the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta.

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To: freedomfiter2

Next thing you know these Baptist will even stoop to writing a liturgy to celebrate these errors and heresies.


41 posted on 01/11/2007 3:55:24 PM PST by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: freedomfiter2

Next thing you know these Baptist's will even stoop to writing a liturgy to celebrate these errors and heresies.


42 posted on 01/11/2007 3:55:49 PM PST by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

....and don't forget who was hugging and kissing the wife of Arafat......

I wonder what Hill's 'girl' friend thought of that, Bill didn't care, he was to busy with his gal pals to worry about Hill....


43 posted on 01/11/2007 3:57:28 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: wouldntbprudent

aka Baptists4Barack


44 posted on 01/11/2007 3:57:58 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: wouldntbprudent
Yes I heard about this convocation, soomething about a retreat, and prayer gathering in a place called Jonestown, something about coolaid.......?

Let MY people go?

BJ and Carter?I hope they have plenty of lightning rods around, or the Almighty might be prone to having a chicken fry. Is Jesse Jackson in on this? And why not? Good question. Jesse might smell the ozone.

45 posted on 01/11/2007 3:57:59 PM PST by Candor7 (The hope of the West disappears into liberal flatulance, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: wouldntbprudent
"This is a historic event for the Baptists in this country and perhaps for Christianity," Carter said at a press conference announcing the convocation.

I was concerned that Jimmah has lost his marbles after his book come out. Maybe Dementia had set in. He is old after all.

Now I am sure he has some form of Dementia.

Someone in his family needs to sit him down and explain he is making a complete fool of himself and whatever respect he had, the little bit he had left, is now slipping away.

Even though, I completely disagree with just about every political position he stands for, he is after all, a former POTUS.

His behavior reflects on all American people.

Can you imagine what the media would do if Reagan acted like Carter?

46 posted on 01/11/2007 3:59:41 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: wouldntbprudent

The best thing that ever happened to the Southern Baptist Association was when jimmy carter left.

As far as I am concerned,every individual that leaves the SBA to follow them; it is good riddance.


47 posted on 01/11/2007 4:00:19 PM PST by sport
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To: HarleyLady27

What a sordid soap opera those two make. I wonder what its ratings would be on HBO.


48 posted on 01/11/2007 4:01:15 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: wouldntbprudent

I would not put too much emphasis on that.

If they were dumb enough to be snookered by carter, they are not too bright in the first place.


49 posted on 01/11/2007 4:02:51 PM PST by sport
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To: Clintonfatigued

Other than the main stream media, college professors, and in clinton's case a few whores who if they are not already loaded with veneral diseases will be after a few sessions whith him.


50 posted on 01/11/2007 4:05:30 PM PST by sport
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To: MamaB
This article is posted here also.
51 posted on 01/11/2007 4:05:58 PM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: wouldntbprudent

After reading this and the posts that followed, I have to say that the wrong group of people is being cited here. It is the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship that Carter (and Clinton?) is part of. Carter pulled out after the Southern Baptist Convention turned strict in the 1990's. The Cooperative Baptist Fellowship was formed after the moderate Southern Baptists became disenchanted with the stricter ones.
See this NewsMax.com article...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/9/202041.shtml


52 posted on 01/11/2007 4:10:55 PM PST by Deaflady4Cheney
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To: Pontiac
Doesn’t the Bible have some rather nasty things to say about the fate in the after life of those who cause divisions in the church

There are six things "the Lord hates," including "a heart that devises wicked plans… a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren" (Prov. 6:16-19).

53 posted on 01/11/2007 4:13:41 PM PST by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: nothingnew

ROFL! (Twice!)


54 posted on 01/11/2007 4:26:00 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I'm conservative, but I held my nose and voted Republican anyway.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
I can't believe I listened to the whole Carter eulogy. My husband had to leave the room. It reminded me of Bill Clinton..."I, I, I, we, we, we".

In his eulogy to Jerry Ford, Carter said he and Jerry Ford were working to "achieve reconciliation" in their churches...Ford in the Episcopal and Carter in the Baptist. Here is what he said:

It is true that Jerry and I shared a common commitment to our religious faith, not just in worshipping the same savior, but in attempting, in our own personal way, to achieve reconciliation within our respective denominations.

We took to heart the admonition of the Apostle Paul that Christians should not be divided over seemingly important, but tangential issues, including sexual preferences and the role of women in the church, things like that.

We both felt that Episcopalians, Baptists and others should live together in harmony, within the adequate and common belief that we are saved by the grace of God through our faith in Jesus Christ.

55 posted on 01/11/2007 4:29:10 PM PST by AUsome Joy
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To: AUsome Joy
>>Jimmy Carter: We took to heart the admonition of the Apostle Paul that Christians should not be divided over seemingly important, but tangential issues, including sexual preferences and the role of women in the church, things like that.

Hmmm... "things like that" were more than "seemingly important" to Paul! From his first letter to the Corinthians, chapter 6, v9,10:

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

And in I Timothy 2, verse 11-14: "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

I think I'd have to go with the Word of God over the secular false teachings of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton on this one!

But, who's kidding who... like everything else Slick Willie and the Peanut do, this is a cynical political ploy, not true religion.
56 posted on 01/11/2007 4:49:35 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I'm conservative, but I held my nose and voted Republican anyway.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

If I were Jimmuh and Klintoon, I would stay out of thunderstorms. The next bolt of lightning could have THEIR names on it. God is not pleased...


57 posted on 01/11/2007 4:52:53 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes, there are people who call themselves Christians who don't want to be challenged by a pastor to live righteously, with purity, etc., etc. They don't like that kind of preaching and will welcome these two idiots.


58 posted on 01/11/2007 4:54:42 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Nervous Tick
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

Thank you!

This is EXACTLY what we are seeing today.

Anybody who knows scripture and believes God can see how far so called "Christians" are wandering from the TRUTH.

Those who aren't grounded in God's Word are so easily deceived.

59 posted on 01/11/2007 5:05:03 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Pontiac
"Doesn’t the Bible have some rather nasty things to say about the fate in the after life of those who cause divisions in the church"

Yes,...and there are millstones involved, if I recall correctly.

The likes of Carter and Clinton are Secular Humanists. They probably would refute the existence of evil and of Hell.

Unfortunately, Jesus mentioned these things on numerous occasions. I'm guessing my Evangelical friends could quote exactly where and how many times Our Lord mentioned such things.
60 posted on 01/11/2007 5:09:54 PM PST by incredulous joe ("It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy." - Groucho Marx)
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