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Remember Lincoln, Obama Allies Say (BARF ALERT)
Forbes.com ^ | January 17, 2007 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 01/17/2007 6:40:50 AM PST by MadIvan

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To: Maceman

Clearly the rest of the demonrat party has rejected osamaObama's new political tone for America. They've chosen Webb to give the response to the SOTU. Clearly Webb will make Boxer's personal attack seem toothless.


21 posted on 01/17/2007 7:00:11 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: silverleaf
Lincoln also volunteered to fight in the Black Hawk War.

Regards, Ivan

22 posted on 01/17/2007 7:01:11 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: OldFriend

I'm curious. If his father was black and his mother was white, why would he be the first black president?


23 posted on 01/17/2007 7:01:44 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
Furthermore, nothing that Obama has produced is of the same quality as the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

You could say that of any one of the candidates out there, regardless of party. Obama is bright, no question about it. He's articulate and no doubt sincere. But he hasn't been tested, and this is not the time to go with untested leadership.

24 posted on 01/17/2007 7:02:32 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: MadIvan

The selling begins..............


25 posted on 01/17/2007 7:02:34 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: MadIvan; pookie18

26 posted on 01/17/2007 7:02:34 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If Obama wants to be like Lincoln, he should be more conservative, since Lincoln was a Republican.

Instead of comparing himself to someone who was President about 145 years ago, he should remember how well recent democrat presidential candidates have been. The last five democrat presidential nominess who had ever been U.S. senators are John Kerry, Al Gore, Walter Mondale, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey, and all five of them lost. If the Democrats nominate Sen. Obama, Sen. Clinton, Sen. Biden, or Sen. Dodd, the Republican will probably win.


27 posted on 01/17/2007 7:02:38 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: TC Rider

LMAO!

Very clever.


28 posted on 01/17/2007 7:02:43 AM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: Right Cal Gal
Obama wants us to look at him and think "Lincoln?"

A better parallel is the last time any major party tried someone this inexperienced, Wendell Willkie in 1940. Willkie also rode a big media blitz to national prominence, though he lost to FDR.

29 posted on 01/17/2007 7:04:33 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: tgambill
"Word from Il. is that this guy is a very very bad choice. Loser and disliked by those that are serious about Politics.....

That was also the word in Arkansas about billy before he was elected.

30 posted on 01/17/2007 7:05:42 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: MadIvan

The TV coverage in the Chicago area is vomit inducing. It's wall-to-wall Obamarama. There was only one channel that didn't have constant coverage of this dork this morning. The news people are peeing themselves with excitement.

I just don't get it. He hasn't done ANYTHING. Nothing for Illinois. Nothing for the nation. Nothing period. But these people are acting like he's the second coming.


31 posted on 01/17/2007 7:05:53 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart global warming)
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To: retrokitten
It says much that the Democrats prefer a vacuum to those people in their party who actually do have a record.

My fear is this - that buoyed by a message of renewal and good will, he'll escape serious scrutiny. I think he's intelligent enough to pick a VP candidate who balances his inexperience and meshes with his themes of working together. If I were his campaign manager, I would suggest Gov. Phil Breseden (D-TN). If the Republicans go through a bloody primary, the ticket could be tough to defeat.

Regards, Ivan

32 posted on 01/17/2007 7:08:32 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Remember, we got 2 Presidents, Carter and Clinton by the dimwits bringing in an unknown person and making them into a "superstar".

Ask yourself, do you want another one?


33 posted on 01/17/2007 7:09:55 AM PST by freekitty
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To: retrokitten

****I just don't get it. He hasn't done ANYTHING. Nothing for Illinois. Nothing for the nation. Nothing period. But these people are acting like he's the second coming.****

Doing nothing for a democrat is a plus.

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The dear senator needs a history lesson....Lincoln never advocated cutting the running.

In fact precisely the opposite, Lincoln would not accept defeat.


34 posted on 01/17/2007 7:13:34 AM PST by Basheva
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To: freekitty
The Republicans desperately need someone who is charismatic, experienced, and doesn't cause conservatives to tear each others guts out. I'm having difficulty thinking of who could fill that role.

Regards, Ivan

35 posted on 01/17/2007 7:14:20 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Someone should say to Obama "So there have been no democrats from Illinois you can use as an example?"


36 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:18 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Does anyone have a QB the Bears can borrow?)
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To: MadIvan

He'll probably pick Angelina Jolie. :-P

Seriously though, I do agree with you. It could get ugly for the GOP. The only positive is that now he will come under more scrutiny and things like his dealings with Tony Rezco (sp?) will get more attention.


37 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:50 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart global warming)
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To: dleecomeback07
The last Illinois politician to become President was Lincoln. I suppose he could emulate Adlai Stevenson, but a two time loser against Ike like him is probably not what he has in mind.

Regards, Ivan

38 posted on 01/17/2007 7:16:48 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: retrokitten

With Turban Durbin kissing the you know what's of all the islamofascists and Obama doing everything he can to avoid being on the Senate floor does Illinois have a current Senator?

PLEASE GARY FENCIK RUN PLEASE GARY FENCIK RUN!


39 posted on 01/17/2007 7:17:02 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Does anyone have a QB the Bears can borrow?)
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To: retrokitten
The only positive is that now he will come under more scrutiny and things like his dealings with Tony Rezco (sp?) will get more attention.

I don't think so. The media is definitely on his side and will run interference.

Regards, Ivan

40 posted on 01/17/2007 7:18:54 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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