Posted on 01/17/2007 4:24:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
"The way this forum has decided to attack the President is a disgrace. He is the one honorable man out there, trying to do the right thing."
Bush is a huge disgrace when it comes to border security. Bush doesn't even seem to think illegal immigration is a problem. I'm not going to support a man who is so irresponsible when comes to the most serious problem facing this nation.
Anyone who supports Bush on immigration is as worthless as him. Many of you either can't find any fault with Bush no matter what or you personally benefit from the destruction of this nation through illegal immigration. I agree with Bush on several issues but he's just a worthless loser when it comes to the most dangerous issue facing this nation.
The trial is over and they were convicted, I take the law and order side on this.
Feel free to post their defense, frankly I would like to see their testimony.
Duh.
Hey, he's just trying. to feed his family
You can't expect to have logical discussions with people who think it is perfectly OK for law enforcement officers to act like Uncle Fester.
Read again, I asked if the govenment was above the law, I didn't advocate breaking the law, and a pardon for these two agents would be within the law.
Most every FReeper is for following the law, that's what's so maddening.
While Bush and the federal government have ignored and continue to actively ignore the laws regarding illegals and enforcing the borders, they used every power of government to persecute these two agents who were trying to enforce the laws.
HOLD IT FOLKS.... these two fellas were doing their job...
Got that right,,,The Agent fired after the scumbag shot at him.And the Agent lit the dude up enough that he landed in Mexico..He should have killed the scum (who might have been bringing reefer to your kids)and got it over with...And that ain't no Opinion.
If this was over lets say two cops in anytown USA and they shot like this I would say hang E'm. But that wasn't Anytown USA and those BP's are in an undeclared war zone of which our leaders in Washington DC have turned a blind eye to. It is the Mexican Smugglers against the US BP it is the Mexican Army as well as Mexican Police against our BP. Then besides that they face the often armed illegals with nothing to loose. Night after night day after day while our POTUS kisses up to the Mexican government BACKING the ones shooting at our BP's for his beloved new trade union.
What is worse the government thinks that their bad cutting a deal by pardoning a felon with 700 pounds of pot is a far less serious a crime as being shot in the butt? This man has had how many arrest by BP? The USAG's ofice is ready to give him sainthood.
How many BP's have been shot at and killed by Mexicans and what has been Mexico's response? What has been the Whitehouses demands? It's a war zone down there. Maybe not one declared by congress but these guys stand a far better chance of not coming home than most cops in the nation. Fire them? OK. But this is a move to bring down the morale of the BP as a whole. Make them second guess all moves. Be much more reluctant to be as aggressive as they need to be to do the job. I will no more second guess them under their circumstances than a U.S. service members actions in Iraq.
But the real giveaway our BP's were sold out? here it is. Unarmed National Guards on the border that the BP as well must protect. Thank you for absolutely nothing GW Bush. Bush has helped create the very conditions that place our BP's lives in danger to start with. In light of his gross mis-management concerning our borders yes he owes them a pardon and the rest of the BP and the NG's he sent there unarmed an apology as well.
"Cops shoot people in the back all the time who are running away, and they are never prosecuted for it."
You don't know what you are talking about.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.
It's become a political issue on Bush's watch, who else would we ask to fix it? As Bush continues to refuse to enforce the law and borders he deserves strong criticism.
I also blame Bush's lack of a winning plan on illegal immigration for the defeat of the Republican Congress.
Two years ago even Senator Frist was saying secure the borders first. If, at that time Bush had worked with fellow Republicans and truly secured the border, he could have come back to a Republican congress a year or two later and asked for a guest worker plan, they would have gladly passed that.
Then Bush could have sailed into the past elections with his fellow Republicans happy with a secure border and Hispanics happy with a guest worker plan, a win-win deal.
But no, Bush went with the lose-lose plan, where he angered his base voters and angered the Hispanics, who then went 70%~76% for Democrats. Fellow Republicans paid the price for his short sightedness.
Me, too. Wish someone had cloned him.
When these men were tried, the only evidence allowed in, pertained to their guilt or innocence.
Stripping everything else out, they are guilty. There are no mitigating circumstances, they are guilty. Any other argument is just like what the Libs do. Was Clinton guilty? They said it was just about sex, remember? Is Sandy Burger guilty? Libs said he just used 'poor judgment', remember? The Rich pardon in exchange for money for Clinton's library? When does it end? If we start excusing people based on mitigating circumstances, we are no better than our enemies on the left.
BECAUSE THE PUNISHMENT ALL THINGS CONSIDERED DOES NOT FIT THE CRIME. THEY LET A MAJOR DOPE SMUGLER GO SCOTT FREE OVER A SHOT IN THE SEATER.
*snicker*
LOL, that explains it all then.
Can you point to the exidence that says that occured...other than the testimony of two cops?
And...we all know people have been known to lie when they fannies are on the line. Gee...cops never lie.
So...where is the OTHER evidence? They didn't take cover...they didn't arrest him...they just left.
That doesn't sound like the actions of people who just got fired upon....sound like the actions of someone who was firing at an illegal...scaring them back to Mexico and then leaving the sceen.
Personally, my preference would be using them for sniper practice....but that's politically incorrect to the nth.
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