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Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background (The answer is "yes")
Insight Magazine ^ | 1/17/2007

Posted on 01/19/2007 8:22:03 AM PST by Rutles4Ever

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To: tumblindice

Oh, I wouldn't know. Iowans don't talk politics casually.

I don't get the feeling that Iowa Dems are eager to vote for Hillary at all. The polls put Edwards in the lead, which leads me to conclude that they are really saying, "Anybody but Hillary (or Kerry)". Kerry polls particularly badly.

The unions will bet on her inevitability, though, and will back her, even though Edwards works hard for that segment. That, along with Vilsack (fmr. Iowa gov.) running, will probably put her second or even possibly first in a very splintered field.


61 posted on 01/19/2007 9:36:02 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: SE Mom

Obama will not be defeated by a single bullet (former Muslim, goofy church, no experience) he's one to be destroyed by a thousand patient cuts.

That's true in general. Presidents are supported on their totality and candidates are opposed on their totality. There are certain themes that work to one extent or another, but they have to be broad: Bush is dumb, Kerry is elitist.

The theme should be that Obama is a neophyte and empty suit and we tailor each attack to that theme. The Muslim stuff just comes off as mean and bigoted, even though it isn't. Let the Hillary camp do that whisper campaign.


62 posted on 01/19/2007 9:40:13 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

Indiana's prolly about the same.
I remember one of the Hollywood crowd, about a year ago, maybe it was Demo-sugar daddy David Geffen, talking about her and using the word "unelectable". (If that's a word.)

In any event she makes a good scare-crow!


63 posted on 01/19/2007 9:45:50 AM PST by tumblindice (No. And I mean it. Maybe.)
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To: sappy

I agree with you. I have thought "sleeper" ever since he first appeared on the scene. Very scary...


64 posted on 01/19/2007 9:46:53 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: twonie
And everyone, including Hillary's shock troops, know that if Oboma were simply sitting in the Senate voting with Hillary instead of out there challenging here, they would not give one hoot in hell what his religious persuasions were.

Good point. Being one of a select 100 (out of 270,000,000) waters down the concern greatly, I guess.

65 posted on 01/19/2007 9:51:03 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: AmishDude
hg
There are certain themes that work to one extent or another, but they have to be broad: Bush is dumb, Kerry is elitist.

It's ever more broad.  Republicans have been painted as dumb since I've been alive. GWB, not so much GHWB, Reagan (dumb & asleep), Ford (dumb & clumsy), Nixon (dumb criminal), Eisenhower (dumb even though he conquered half the world).

 

66 posted on 01/19/2007 9:51:18 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

They try dumb whenever they can. (This is why the one attack that unhinges liberals is to call them stupid. It's the one thing they can't think of themselves as being. As a mathematician, I can easily get away with it.)

But Nixon was not stereotyped as dumb. He was always portrayed as evil, manipulative, secretive, anti-social, etc., but dumb never took hold.

Remember GHWB? He was a "wimp". Even when he attacked Iraq, that was portrayed as some sort of attempt to quash the "wimp factor".


67 posted on 01/19/2007 9:56:49 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude
Pssssst, Obama...

Poor Palestinian Politics Injures Hillary and Our Righteous Cause

68 posted on 01/19/2007 9:58:27 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Gee thanks for all that wonderful insight on the Bushes.

Lets come out of the "weeds" and come up with a saying for OBAMA, something like:

"OBAMA means Die Whitey"


69 posted on 01/19/2007 9:58:27 AM PST by CBart95
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To: twigs

"It might. But not necessarily. This could be a ploy of the Hillary camp where they use Obama to show how enlightened Hill is. They use this stuff to get the word out about him and that could keep him from getting the nomination. But then she could come to the "realization" that someone's past should not be used against them in the future, that we need to understand the needs and concerns of Muslims."

Exactly. Thank you.


70 posted on 01/19/2007 9:59:38 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: mewzilla

That article makes Guiliani look really good. Other than snubbing Arafat, I don't see any evidence of him being "notoriously anti-Arab" but being Muslim means never having to say...well, anything truthful.


71 posted on 01/19/2007 10:01:10 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

He needs to be asked whether he will place his hand on a Bible or a koran (lowercase on purpose) if sworn in as POTUS.


72 posted on 01/19/2007 10:02:44 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Maverick68

This brings to mind the old saying of "a Hobson's choice"...ie having to choose betweena Muslim or a Mormon might be a "damned if I do or a damned if I don't" kind of delimna.

This earmarks almost all of the early "presidential candidates and "wannabes" so far.

For a sundry set of reasons, all appear to be "drain circlers".


73 posted on 01/19/2007 10:11:26 AM PST by CBart95
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To: Rutles4Ever

Since his middle name was revealed, who didn't see this coming?


74 posted on 01/19/2007 10:13:36 AM PST by hiramknight (going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordian...Schwarpskoff)
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To: SE Mom
If Obama was a Muslim, and has become a Christian- regardless of his sincerity- he's now a target for islamic extremists.

And as the leader of the Great Satan President Bush isn't???

As to other reasons he's qualified or not qualified for being POTUS, the position he's in as an apparent former Muslim- disqualifies him.

Last time I checked Article VI, Section 3 was still a part of the Constitution.

75 posted on 01/19/2007 10:29:05 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rutles4Ever

More important, why hasn't a fatwa been declared against him already as an apostate? Also, why haven't any Muslim organizations criticised him as one? This makes it look like he might be a secret Muslim, meaning he's concealing his religion for no legitimate reason. As such a Trojan Horse he could be particularly dangerous in the Oval Office.


76 posted on 01/19/2007 3:00:30 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Rutles4Ever

77 posted on 01/19/2007 5:34:02 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Rutles4Ever

I cant believe I am typing this but...

"GO HILL!!!!! YOU GO "GIRL"!!!!



LMAO.


78 posted on 01/19/2007 7:32:36 PM PST by LongsforReagan
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To: Astronaut

How dumb are we?


Well at least pretty dumb.


79 posted on 01/19/2007 8:06:36 PM PST by 11B40 (times change, people don't)
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To: albie

"So this blows the Clinton/Obama ticket theory out of the water. Unless people don't care if he's a Muslim (which wouldn't surprise me). If Obama makes just one appearance as a guest judge on "American Idol", that's it he's in."

You'd think, but these are Leftist Democrats. Nothing matters outside gaining power and keeping power. They understand the game, they play for keeps. Unlike Republicans who don't understand politics. I'm not saying Republicans should stoop to this level, but they should
learn to stand up for themselves and what they believe in.


80 posted on 01/20/2007 3:54:55 PM PST by ottersnot (Leftist Democrats-building a new hell on earth-lie by lie)
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