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**LIVE Thread - State of the Union Address [starting at approx. comment 400]
http://www.cspan.org/ ^ | 1-23-07

Posted on 01/23/2007 4:45:40 PM PST by STARWISE

Edited on 01/23/2007 6:37:01 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: everyone

Good, well-worded, very sincere section on Iraq.


2,701 posted on 01/23/2007 10:33:49 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: STARWISE

Welcome ;)


2,702 posted on 01/23/2007 10:36:59 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good grief what is your insurance anyway at 20,000/yr?

The cost of mine is about 10,000/yr family and that is with a union involved. Any out of pocket gets run through a 125 plan so it is pre-tax. You can run over the counter meds through the 125 like vitamins, aspirin, etc.


2,703 posted on 01/23/2007 10:45:10 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: flaglady47; Chena; nopardons
Ah, but now I will leave, on second thoughts, as I am hungry, and hunger trumps pointlessly debating with those for whom the word "analysis" doesn't exist. Nitey nite, my kitchen beckons.

Nice try, flaglady47, but the hard fact remains that the only reason our little debate has been pointless is your staunch refusal to acknowledge the obvious. I invite those of you who may be following this little skirmish from afar to read post 2681 and decide for yourselves who doesn't know the meaning of the word "analysis."

Finally, although I would normally applaud your decision to retreat to the safety of your kitchen, where you can do no further harm to the cause of logical reasoning, I am compelled to remind you of the maxim attributed to Harry S. Truman: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." Good night, and good luck convincing everyone how "very good" your recollection truly is.

2,704 posted on 01/23/2007 10:53:07 PM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: m3d1um

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1122114/posts

Southack posted this Bush accomplished in first term. There is more somewhere from Southack in a newer post but I could not find it.

Maybe another freeper can ping you to that one. I'm sorry you are so disappointed in President Bush. He's had little help from Congress, Republicans or Democrats and he is not perfect. If Hillary, Obama, Edwards or any Democrat becomes our next president we are going to be in a world of hurt.


2,705 posted on 01/23/2007 10:54:24 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Texasforever

No, they get it free through Medicaid, and some get it through Medicare for specific reasons. I'm not talking about retired people here, unless you are on Medicaid. What I was responding to was a comment that to those in the zero tax bracket a zero tax break had no meaning. And I agreed, it would have no meaning; however, those in the zero tax bracket get Medicaid (free health insurance paid by the state), and in some specific circumstances, some get it via Medicare. But the point I was making eluded you because you had a different agenda. You wanted to play gotcha. But, just for you, let's drop Medicare. I'll do fine, how about you?


2,706 posted on 01/23/2007 11:00:28 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; La Enchiladita; Chena; nopardons; flaglady47; Texasforever; All
Setting the Record Straight: President Bush's Standard Deduction for Health Insurance Would Save Money for More Than 100 Million Americans
2,707 posted on 01/23/2007 11:01:00 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Bitter Bierce

Well, one thing I can agree with, and that's the "Bitter" part of your name. You fit your monicker.


2,708 posted on 01/23/2007 11:02:00 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: flaglady47
What I was responding to was a comment that to those in the zero tax bracket a zero tax break had no meaning.

Nope, it was YOU that brought up Medicare. You may want to be more careful in the future.

2,709 posted on 01/23/2007 11:03:56 PM PST by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

"Nope, it was YOU that brought up Medicare. You may want to be more careful in the future."

Oh, I'll be sure to take your advice. Wouldn't want to enable your gotcha game unduly. Hey wait, maybe two can play. I'll be watching you.....


2,710 posted on 01/23/2007 11:11:31 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: All
President Bush's SOTU speech tonight was mostly window dressing with a surprisingly understated delivery.

Except for one thing.

He drew a line in the sand, called the dems out regarding their commitment to winning the WOT, clearly defined our tasks (again) and made it VERY clear he intends to keep his commitments. He also made clear that he expects the Iraqis to keep theirs. And even better, he made it clear that those who voted for the war have a MORAL obligation to follow through on that vote to victory. The fact the Democrats could not even support that concept will not be lost on the American people.

The President is not playing politics on this. He is dead serious. I may be in a complete minority...but it was EXACTLY what I wanted to hear.
2,711 posted on 01/23/2007 11:12:19 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: flaglady47
Wouldn't want to enable your gotcha game unduly

Hey if you don't want your hypocrisy exposed be more careful.

2,712 posted on 01/23/2007 11:13:14 PM PST by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Chena

We are in complete agreement!


2,713 posted on 01/23/2007 11:14:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: The Shrew
Your questions are serious ones and I would be be remiss, if I tried to answer you now. For you see, I am about as much in the dark on the matter, as you are.

President Bush HAS repeatedly asked for a line item veto in the past. He's never been given one and perhaps he felt that tonight's speech was neither the time nor the place to ask for it, yet again.

The Dems ran most of their '06 campaigns on "CORRUPTION", neglecting, of course, to allow a mention of their collective own to ever be raised. You know WHO cares about earmarks, don't you? WE DO! The general public is far more interested in hearing about mostly falsified, lurid tales of homosexual sex, that never happened and/or being beaten over the head with the word MACACA, which nobody had ever heard of before.

2,714 posted on 01/23/2007 11:26:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Texasforever

"Hey if you don't want your hypocrisy exposed be more careful."

Better be careful what you say too. Two can play the game. Nitey nite.


2,715 posted on 01/23/2007 11:26:38 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: TheBattman

Just more of what is already happening now; is what I call the "state grant program".


2,716 posted on 01/23/2007 11:28:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: The Shrew

Your questions are apt, but I notice you're not getting much of a response. Maybe it's because the answers are self-evident, and they're too painful for Republicans to think about.

By the way, the Republican candidate for Congress in my district, running for an open seat, won by campaigning vigorously against earmarks. Fortunately, he has a long legislative record that gives a man great confidence in his fortitude in voting against such crimes against the taxpayer now that he's on the Hill.

As long as we can keep electing folks like him, maybe there's hope yet. In the final analysis, that's the only answer to our dilemma.

Again, thanks for a good post.


2,717 posted on 01/23/2007 11:35:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (For babies, the threat from terrorists pales next to the threat from Planned Barrenhood knives)
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To: popdonnelly

Congress authorized him to go to war. It seems a bit short sighted that a majority find it convenient to turn on him in the middle of it. So in other words victory is currently not in the interest of the Democrat Party.... I guess all you have to do is ask yourself what if this plan works..... If the answer hurts your political ambitions then your are dancing a political fandango with the diabolical. Worse yet how many will rue the day that George W. Bush policies are vindicated and what exactly will that mean to the country....


2,718 posted on 01/24/2007 12:46:06 AM PST by tomnbeverly (Democrats have vowed to dance a political fandango with the diabolical.)
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To: AmeriBrit

Bookmarked

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1772549%2C1668


2,719 posted on 01/24/2007 1:08:46 AM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: DBrow

Sure it does...it's in the Preamble. Try reading that.


2,720 posted on 01/24/2007 1:11:12 AM PST by medscribe
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