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Reported on FOX News a little ago. Illigals have killed 45,000 US citizens since 9/11
Fox News | Jan 24, 2007 | Fox Neil Cabuto

Posted on 01/24/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by stockpirate

There were two woman on the show being interviwed and I only caught a piece of it.

But the main part was that since 9/11 over 45,000 US citizens have been killed by illigal aliens in the US.

Does anyone know more about this as I am very interested. They said the numbers came from a US Congressman or Senator.

also one person was with the boarder militia group, so there were three people.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bogus; borders; bushbotsindenial; crimaliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; lies; quagmire; statistics; wot
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To: tfelice; stockpirate; HoustonCurmudgeon

The numbers are from Jim Gilchrist. >>>>>>>>>>>>

Here are simlar numbers from Congressman Steve King (R, IA)....dated April 2006



Over 19,000 Americans have died a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens since 9/11 (12 a day).*

Over 20,000 Americans have died at the hands of uninsured drunk driving illegal aliens since 9/11 (13 a day).*

Over 13,000 American children are the victim of a sex crime at the hands of illegal aliens since 9/11 (8 a day).*

Less than 7,000 Americans have died on 9/11 and after due to terrorism, including those who died fighting terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

What is the bigger threat to Americans today, terrorist thugs or illegal aliens?

*Source – “Biting the hand that feeds you”. Written by Congressman Steve King (R, IA) on April 25, 2006. Source link: http://www.kingforcongress.com/clippings/desk-immigration4-06.htm


41 posted on 01/24/2007 3:40:19 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: stockpirate

The number sounds a bit inflated to me, although drunk illegals have certainly been taking out a good number of neighbors and townsfolk around here, at a rather alarming rate. Last incident was a mother and her daughter coming back from a church event, a couple of months ago.

Whatever the case, the death-count number caused by illegals is every bit as legitimate as the death-count from 9/11. And, personally, I regard every one of these pro-amnesty, open-borders proponents (even found on these FR boards; gag) as being complicite in those deaths caused by illegals.


42 posted on 01/24/2007 3:41:19 PM PST by greene66
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To: truthkeeper

And oranges too


43 posted on 01/24/2007 3:42:32 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

Wanna buy a bridge?


44 posted on 01/24/2007 3:44:09 PM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: txdoda

I checked the source and he doesn't mention any of those stats - at least on that page. Perhaps it is on a different one.


45 posted on 01/24/2007 3:46:01 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: bmwcyle

You got it, it is way too dangerous.


46 posted on 01/24/2007 3:48:29 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

They're just doing the job that no one else wants to do.


47 posted on 01/24/2007 3:48:42 PM PST by Hazwaste
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To: Hazwaste

They are actually doing better the the REAL terrorists!


48 posted on 01/24/2007 3:49:30 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

The latest stat I could find was for 2004 and a number of 16,100 murders for that year.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

The numbers mentioned were probably extrapolated from different numbers government keeps ie: 1/3 of prison inmates in California are illegals. I am sure they added in the number of automobile accident deaths caused by illegals.
If you look at all the numbers the figure may be inflated but the actual number itself can still be huge.


49 posted on 01/24/2007 3:50:42 PM PST by sheana
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To: L98Fiero

then we are actually agreeing, because I too am nervous about these numbers.

But the fact is we need to somehow figure out how to get at the right numbers, because they are going to become an issue.....and I hate the idea of the liberals being able to claim a victory by "exposing" bogus numbers when the real ones could be bad enough.


50 posted on 01/24/2007 3:51:28 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: stockpirate
There has been between 16,000 and 17,000 murders a year this decade.

Do the math. The claim is B.S.

51 posted on 01/24/2007 3:52:31 PM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: txdoda

Here's a link to a pdf document of an interesting Government Accountability Office study.

Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails - Briefing for Congressional Requestors, March 29, 2005

Note - these are not necessarily ILLEGAL ALIENS.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf


52 posted on 01/24/2007 3:53:01 PM PST by California74
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To: Strategerist

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between mere uncollected statistics & intentionally hiding them.

I remember when "Hate Crimes" laws were being passed that part of these laws involved collecting & publishing hate crimes statistics.

Some countries, France among them, bar government collecting crime statistics broken down by race.


53 posted on 01/24/2007 3:54:46 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: stockpirate

Another Grim Milestone.


54 posted on 01/24/2007 3:58:43 PM PST by Monkey King
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
They're not just talking about homicides, but all incidents that cause the death of Americans...car accidents and the like included.
55 posted on 01/24/2007 4:04:31 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: stockpirate
Not to be overly nit-picky, but this item wasn't "reported by FOX news", it was claimed by a guest on a segment.

There's a huge difference.

Perhaps you can ask the moderator to amend the title as such.
56 posted on 01/24/2007 4:04:34 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: txdoda

"Over 13,000 American children are the victim of a sex crime at the hands of illegal aliens since 9/11 (8 a day).*"

While I accept the rest of what King says, I completely disagree with that statistic. Less than half of sexual assault victims report their attacks...especially children. If he's saying eight a day, it's probably more like 20 a day.


57 posted on 01/24/2007 4:06:25 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: admin

Someone mentioned that my title should be edited as it was on a show not Fox news.


58 posted on 01/24/2007 4:08:10 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: mgstarr

I checked the source and he doesn't mention any of those stats - at least on that page.>>>>>>

Hmmm.... that used to be a good link......anyway here Con. King quotes these same numbers on his gov. page....from last May.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html

"The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime."


59 posted on 01/24/2007 4:09:12 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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Letterman mentioned the other night that %50 of the people account for half the population.


60 posted on 01/24/2007 4:09:19 PM PST by isom35
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