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Habitat for Humanity faces fight in wealthy community
SF Gate ^ | January 25, 2007 | Peter Fimrite

Posted on 01/28/2007 1:45:48 AM PST by Lorianne

A group of residents in the pricey Marin County community of Strawberry are mobilizing against an affordable housing plan by the renowned charity Habitat for Humanity, saying it would blight their neighborhood.

The group is convinced that the plan to build four three-bedroom units of low-income housing in their neighborhood would result in increased traffic and parking congestion and lower property values.

About three dozen residents who live near the proposed construction site -- 16.5 acres just west of the Tiburon city limits -- are attempting to raise $100,000 for legal fees to challenge the project, which still must be approved by the county Planning Commission.

"Habitat for Humanity goes into blighted neighborhoods and fixes them up. Here they are going into an enhanced neighborhood and blighting it," said Bill Duane, a 58-year-old resident of Bay Vista Drive, near the proposed site. "I'm not against low-cost housing, but this is social engineering. The county does not have the right to choose my neighbors."

Such a ruckus is not unusual in Marin, where homeowners have been notoriously hostile to development, especially the kind that threatens to lower the value of their property. But the charity made famous by former President Jimmy Carter would seem an unconventional target.

About 100 Strawberry residents packed a recent Strawberry Design Review Board meeting. They said they support, and in some cases have participated in, the charity's work, but do not believe the development will fit into their neighborhood, where most homes are worth between $1 million and $2 million.

"The homes are of a certain type and would not fit in. The placement of these homes would really stand out," "There are other places in the county where low-cost housing would be more appropriate."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
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To: Jezebelle
Right, "The Serial" released as a movie called "Serial". It's never been released on DVD and I haven't seen it or read the book for years and it's probably dated, but it was a hoot. I recommend the book (or the movie if you can find it) to anyone who wants a chuckle at the "human potential movement" and the on-going whackiness.

I lived in Marin when the book and movie came out, albeit in Novato which wasn't really a part of Marin or, if it was, the armpit (or worse) part but the liberal virus just couldn't be held at bay forcing me north until I couldn't handle it any longer and "came back home".

Wonderful place, lousy politics.

21 posted on 01/28/2007 3:31:15 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan

I understand completely.

I lived in Tiburon for awhile.


22 posted on 01/28/2007 3:40:26 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Lorianne
Surprised that a bunch of SF liberals do not want more drug trafficking, robberies, knifings, prostitution, car jackings, purse snatchings, rape and murder brought into the area. Oh, do not even think about the problems in the school system when these unruly thugs take it over and education has to be dumbed down even more to keep riots down to a minimum.
23 posted on 01/28/2007 3:41:03 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Lorianne

This is just the start. The next stage is masked nightriders come to the homes of the poor and burn hottubs on their lawn.


24 posted on 01/28/2007 3:42:35 AM PST by tlb
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To: Jezebelle
Tiberon! You were in the heart of the beast!

For the most part I did enjoy my time there but whew, there were times when you could cut the pretension with a knife.

25 posted on 01/28/2007 3:44:39 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan

The people in Marin County are so wealthy they don't just get the crabs, they get lobsters!.....Robin Williams


26 posted on 01/28/2007 3:59:43 AM PST by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: meyer

Me neither - People don't want the dregs forcibly placed directly in their neighborhood.



There is (was) a nice little community of town homes not too far from me - clean, crime free, strong property values...that is, until HUD came in and bought up some of the units to sell them to a bunch of dregs. Now, it's like a little ghetto and the original property owners can't sell to get out.

One family I know puts it this way: "These people don't work, so they sleep all day and are up all night. Strange cars come in and out, in and out all night long while the ghetto music blasts. WE have to sleep so we can get up in the morning to go to work - and if you ask nicely for them to be quiet, the response is 'Get the f--- outta here, cracker, before I f--- you up.' "

Nice neighbors.


27 posted on 01/28/2007 3:59:54 AM PST by Dasaji (The U.S.A. is the Land of Opportunity and you've got 50 states to do it in!)
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To: boxerblues

"How much traffic & parking congestion could actually result from 4 homes?"

In a neighborhood I lived in about 10 years ago, we had an owner who decided to rent rooms. I've counted as many as 12 cars at that house on too regular a basis to be 'entertaining friends'.


28 posted on 01/28/2007 4:10:28 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Yes, I am a rocket scientist.)
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To: eastcobb
"Truth be told, Habitat For Humanity shouldn't try to build in million dollar neighborhoods. The people who would live in these HFH homes probably can't afford to live in that area anyway."

I'd be willing to bet the HFH homes will appreciate in value, the lucky occupants will be inundated with offers from prospective buyers as soon as any resale restrictions lapse, and the homes will be sold for substantially more than they cost to build by the HFH chosen occupants who want to cash in their newfound wealth. The local residents might have more success challenging the restrictive clauses HFH puts in the contracts regarding proceeds from the sale of the homes and length of occupancy.
29 posted on 01/28/2007 4:12:49 AM PST by Poodlebrain
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To: jslade
"Robin Williams"

Ah, another file product of Marin County.

30 posted on 01/28/2007 4:24:12 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Lorianne

Liberals practicing one of their most holy sacraments: Hypocrisy.


31 posted on 01/28/2007 4:26:30 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Lancey Howard

I suspect you're right. They vote left because they are so enlightened and care for the poo-o-or. When the radical weenies they put into office actually bring home their ideas, then it's a different story.

Q: What's the definition of a Conservative?
A: A Liberal that's been mugged (or been screwed over by socialism).


32 posted on 01/28/2007 4:35:05 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("I'll build the g--d---- fence if they want it." -- John McCain, A Modern Profile In Courage)
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To: Lorianne
"would result in increased traffic and parking congestion and lower property values"

Not to worry. Typically, all these vehicles are parked on their front lawns.

33 posted on 01/28/2007 4:48:27 AM PST by moonman (`)
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To: Lorianne
I don't know the area so I'll defer to those who do, but in general I think low-income housing should be dispersed. Concentrating the very poor has been the highroad to a social disaster.

The problem with scattered site housing, of course, is that many more neighborhoods have to be asked to take a share. That causes friction. That is understandable but it is still no reason for wealthy communities to be exempted.

At this point, we get into the site specific issues. Are there jobs in the area for the folks Habitat wants to move in? One of the benchmarks for housing decisions is that the people who work in service jobs in a community ought to be able to live in reasonable proximity. Ideally one should be able to live without a car. If the Habitat houses in this story are within reasonable range of a shopping/entertainment district or some other job concentration where these folks might find work, it might be a good location.

As an aside, I don't know what Habitat's track record is, but I have the notion that they don't cater to out-and-out bums. They do some screening and expect people to be working.

34 posted on 01/28/2007 4:53:25 AM PST by sphinx
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To: sphinx
I don't know the area so I'll defer to those who do, but in general I think low-income housing should be dispersed.

Given what I've seen in government-funded low income housing, I think that it generally should be abolished. It's nothing but government-sanctioned freeloading by the majority of the inhabitants.

35 posted on 01/28/2007 5:01:12 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: Jezebelle
I lived in the Bay Area years ago, and my clearest memory is that _everyone_ I met from Marin County was an arrogant _a_hole.

They were self-righteous nose-in-the-air not-in-my-backyard leftys.

I hope HUD dumps every new project for the state of California in their backyard--just because watching them scream will bring me joy.
36 posted on 01/28/2007 5:06:36 AM PST by cgbg (Historians will call this the era of the Nancy State.)
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To: Lorianne

Considering Jimmuh's recent actvities, I'd worry that the low income housing would be housing muzzie terrorist cells.


37 posted on 01/28/2007 5:09:23 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: eastcobb

Can you imagine the first tax bill?

You build a $75000 home in a 1-2 million dollar area. The assessment will be huge!


38 posted on 01/28/2007 5:17:40 AM PST by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: meyer
Given what I've seen in government-funded low income housing, I think that it generally should be abolished. It's nothing but government-sanctioned freeloading by the majority of the inhabitants.

It's a big country and there can be lots of variation on the pattern, but in general I favor shifting from fixed site projects to vouchers. But that leaves the problem of ensuring that there is enough low- and moderate priced housing spread around in dispersed locations that lower income people can actually afford.

I live in D.C. so I'll use it as an example. We have had the historic pattern of the city being used as the dumping ground for the left-behinds as the middle class fled to the 'burbs. Now gentrification is pushing the poor out of many of "their" traditional neighborhoods. This is good for the city itself, which is sprucing up very nicely in many areas. But where are the poor supposed to go?

Part of the problem is that the suburbs are highly resistant to building low and moderate priced housing. This has been a political issue for years and some suburban jurisdictions have done more than others, but there is simply not enough. Most of the job growth, especially in the entry-level, low skill ranges, is out in the 'burbs. Low income people need to be able to find housing where the jobs are -- and ideally they shouldn't have to have a car to do it.

One occasionally reads stories about the poverty superstar who rises at 5 to drop her kids at her sister's place by 5:30 so she can take metrorail and three busses to get to her minimum wage job by 9:00. Then she does it all in reverse to get back home by 8 that night. My hat is off to such people, but as a social/transportation/housing model, it's bound to fail. So the issue remains: how do we break up the large, toxic concentrations of the very poor? And how do we get enough moderate priced housing spread throughout the metro area and in reasonable proximity to jobs?

I'm not opposed to zoning and occupancy regulations; I don't want poor families tripled up in tiny apartments or absentee landlords operating flophouses on suburban cul de sacs. But the suburbs can't have it both ways. If suburbanites don't want these things, they need to be supportive of a reasonable amount of decent affordable housing in their areas as well. Like, just maybe, a Habitat project in la-la land. Dispersion is important. Every area has to carry part of the load. Every cul de sac doesn't have to have a section 8 unit, but there does need to be more affordable housing near suburban job centers.

39 posted on 01/28/2007 5:45:11 AM PST by sphinx
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Is that counting the cars on blocks in the yard or just the ones in the street?

I took a trip to France once, and as we were pulling up to a small country house, I noticed the next door neighbor had two or three cars up on blocks in the yard. I started laughing hysterically at seeing that in France.

It was very difficult to explain this to my gracious but puzzled host. The cars were Peugot's and Citroen's. Not a Camaro or Oldsmobile in sight.

40 posted on 01/28/2007 5:50:54 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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