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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 January 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 28 January 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/28/2007 5:05:56 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, January 28th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., and Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.; Ellen Miller, executive director of the Sunlight Foundation.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and David Vitter, R-La.; former presidential speechwriter Michael Gerson; Kenneth Pollack, a Brookings Institution analyst.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Jim Webb, D-Va., Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; actor Kevin Bacon.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele; Democratic strategist Donna Brazile.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; news; spork; sporks; sunday; talkshows
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To: PerConPat

So a 4 star general is called "General?"

You explained it much better than I did.


801 posted on 01/28/2007 6:26:41 PM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: Sea2ShiningSea; Bahbah

Thank you ;).


802 posted on 01/28/2007 6:49:12 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: maica
So a 4 star general is called "General?"

Yep...or just about anything else he or she wants to be called! Click here for the whole nine yards on US military officer rank insignia.
803 posted on 01/28/2007 6:50:04 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: malia

Oh my God! They both had the audacity to say all that -- with their history???? Only people with MSM in their hip pockets would have the nerve to make those statements.


804 posted on 01/28/2007 6:59:38 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: sgtyork
Is the memory you were thinking about, Phsstpok?

No, but that's a good source for the type of stuff I was talking about.  Thank you.  I'll pass that on to some of my colleagues (see the rest of this post for an explanation of that).

Two years ago the general issue (not the specific incident) in the article you linked to was one of the themes of a session at the Gartner IT conference I attended in San Francisco.  It was actually part of a session titled "surviving manufacturing IT" which was talking about the problem corporate IT types (like me) have in dealing with the mill IT types.  The mill guys do stuff quick and dirty, what works right now, and are deathly afraid of upgrading, patching or changing anything on the chance that it might bring their production environment down.  There was a lot more to it, but the piece that related to your article was talking about how a determined terrorist can (and probably will) break into industrial systems and do the kind of damage that the article you linked to mentions.

The story I related was something told directly to me by a senior person working for the large printer company involved.  He was also a senior officer in a... sensitive... reserve unit for one of our military branches that had been deployed during GW1 and was privy to the "tall tales" of his fellows (I won't get more specific than that).  He had checked this scuttlebut out since it involved resources from the company he worked for in "the real world" and he'd gotten "the right signals" when he checked with his contacts, both in the military and his company, that told him the story was true.  I think he was implying that he was warned off pursuing the issue, but with a wink and a nod.

This is going to be a big area of concern in the near future for a lot of people, but that won't happen till the first highly publicized incident in one of our industrial facilities.  I'm half convinced that the big blackout in the northeast a few years ago was such an event but that it was covered up.  Even being in the IT position I'm in and keeping track of this sort of stuff (casually, not as a direct part of my job) I had missed the story you linked.  I'm passing the link on to our security and disaster recovery folks when I get to work tomorrow.  Thanks.

805 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:13 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bush 1 had NO are almost NO Executive experience

Johnnie! That's not true, he was Director of the CIA. And don't forget his entrepeniurial background in the oil business for nearly 20 years.


806 posted on 01/28/2007 7:10:22 PM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: PerConPat

thanks, that's a great link


807 posted on 01/28/2007 7:11:23 PM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: PerConPat

Amen. It really ticks me off when so called news organizations get their facts wrong.


808 posted on 01/28/2007 7:17:22 PM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: Phsstpok

This story also appeared in some of the obits of Ronaldus Maximus. I just couldn't find another link to them.

I am glad to help. Sounds like a fascinating area.


809 posted on 01/28/2007 7:18:54 PM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: mountainfolk

Sen Brownback had the same answer to every question; reach out and pull together. What a Duffus!


810 posted on 01/28/2007 7:33:56 PM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: PerConPat

Thank you. FNC was wrong. You cannot believe anything you hear on any network news.


811 posted on 01/28/2007 7:35:41 PM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: csmusaret
You cannot believe anything you hear on any network news.

To paraphrase the greatest POTUS of my lifetime: I sometimes trust, but I always verify.
812 posted on 01/28/2007 7:45:24 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: sgtyork

I stand corrected. Sorry for the mistake. I'll go back to find out who I was thinking of. (Geeze, I hate to get something like that wrong.)


813 posted on 01/29/2007 3:26:52 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: altura

Thanks! I was going off memory.


814 posted on 01/29/2007 3:41:03 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: rodguy911

I don't think history will be kind to President Clinton.

I'd put Clinton down as one of the worst based on character and corruption. I'd list Carter as one of the worst based on his horrible foreign and domestic policies, and failure to lead.

Clinton had the advantage of having a Republican congress that made him do better than he would have done otherwise, IMHO.


815 posted on 01/29/2007 3:45:30 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: samantha

Sorry, I may have misunderstood after reading the post a second time. I do agree that Carter was the worst president in my lifetime. Clinton was worse in some areas but Carter set the standard for failure.


816 posted on 01/29/2007 3:53:44 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: PerConPat

Do you notice how the Demonrats love to use Webb because he's a vet and his son has served in Iraq? They know that has some pull on the public. Of course, they try to masquerade(and the media helps) Webb's deficiancies with making him this 'hero', like they did Kerry. Yet Duncan Hunter has the military experience along with his son to go along with his being a strong, assuring conservative voice. He comes across in a warm manner and I think he will do extremely well to wake people up to the dangers we are facing and he just gets the message out there effectively and I think he will be a great voice for conservatism to America. And I do think he's Reaganesque and that's why we've got to support him and donate money to help him in this journey to the presidency.


817 posted on 01/29/2007 6:45:07 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: samantha

It's going to make you even sadder when people start seeing Hunter in debates. This man knows what he's talking about. He has been chairman of the Armed Services committee and has been in charge of defense budgets so he has had a prominent place in Congress. And he will prove how articulate and knowledgeable he is during hte campaign and people will not be disappointed. And people got a chance to see him on This Week and notice how they were all impressed? Duncan Hunter is the real deal.


818 posted on 01/29/2007 7:05:10 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: samantha

I should add that you discredit yourself when you say you'd support 'Crazy McCain' over Hunter...


819 posted on 01/29/2007 7:06:29 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: bushfamfan
Do you notice how the Demonrats love to use Webb because he's a vet and his son has served in Iraq?

Webb will continue to be used by the Rats as a hatchet man until he finally wakes up to the fact that class warfare is a good starter but a bad finisher.
820 posted on 01/29/2007 8:07:47 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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