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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/30/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by T.L.Sink

Personally, I prefer Tancredo although I admire "America's Mayor," and this article sheds some light on Rudy's little known conservative and courageous accomplishments.


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KEYWORDS: giuliani; giuliani2008; malanga; rudy
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To: RebelBanker

I thought one of the main differences in some of us around here is that we see the NEED to compromise and are willing to, as opposed to the ones around here that wouldn't compromise on their share of a piece of cake.

HONK! HONK!


141 posted on 01/30/2007 5:53:54 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: dirtboy

I'm talking about the 100 percenter crowd: "If you don't agree with me 100%, I won't support you."

Why isn't 75-80% enough?


142 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:01 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Afronaut

Some conservatives seek to preserve the status quo, while others seek to return to the values of an earlier time, the status quo ante.--Wikipedia

I would have to say I am of the status quo ante. What we have today is a bunch of Republican Politicians formerly known as conservative who became too comfortable, and became complacent to their jobs of promoting conservative ideas and traditions, the reason they were elected in the first place. This last election, hopefully, was a wakeup call to return to the old fashioned conservative beliefs which, though old fashioned, do promote progress.

Pardon the run-on :)


143 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:17 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: Doninnj
Maybe they should think of the CONSEQUENCES if SHILLARY was elected.

They will be same consequences that social conservatives will suffer if Rudy is elected.

There is no substantive difference between these two social liberals.

144 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:23 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Darkwolf377
If that's the case, apparently there's such a thing as a Clinton conservative these days.

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."
-Rudy GiulianiRudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani
Wayne Barrett.


145 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:33 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: zarf

Angry screed???? Somebody wet in your Wheaties this morning, or are you always this friendly just because someone voices an opinion which differs from your own?


146 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:58 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Darkwolf377
Well, I'm against abortion and I'm an atheist, so I don't see how that makes one a religious conservative.

Then you of all people should know better than to equate 'abortion' and 'the religious angle' as you did in post 54.

147 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:58 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: TommyDale
Some people vote their conscience.

So you're saying that if we pick a different candidate than you do, we don't have a conscience!

Anything ELSE you think the rest of us who are beneath you don't have?

Want to go for values now?

148 posted on 01/30/2007 5:55:14 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EveningStar
Why isn't 75-80% enough?

I'm curious how someone who is pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights, and pro-amnesty is gonna deliver anywhere near fifty percent of what social and gun-rights conservatives want in a candidate.

149 posted on 01/30/2007 5:56:25 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: airborne
So I've made a commitment to speak up and promote the man whom I believe is our best representative. Duncan Hunter!

And that's exactly what you're supposed to do! It's what primaries are all about. You and others like you are behind Hunter, and I, and those like me are behind Rudy. In the end, someone's candidate is going to win, and we all need to be grown up enough to realize we're not all behind the same guy.

150 posted on 01/30/2007 5:56:44 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: JCEccles

"They will be same consequences that social conservatives will suffer if Rudy is elected.

There is no substantive difference between these two social liberals."


One word describes your comment: IGNORANT.


151 posted on 01/30/2007 5:56:47 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: JHBowden

There are many compelling reasons to not elect a Rudy Giuliani. There is a full year ahead of us, the guy hasn't even entered the race yet, and you people are demanding that we all accept the liberal as the nominee. Seems to me that the Rudy supporters are not only stupid, but blind as well.


152 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:17 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: dirtboy
Belittling the core values of large swaths of the GOP base as stupidity ain't a very bright strategy for winning the White House.

Then why on God's earth do you do that 24/7 on this very forum?

153 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:17 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EveningStar

Why isn't 75-80% enough?

That would be the best President in a hundred years. Which candidates would be that conservative?


154 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:30 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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To: JHBowden
Some people are all feeling and no brain, and can't see the big picture, nor the consequences of their actions.

Insulting the core values of the base ain't gonna win them to the Guiliani camp. I'm really not sure who dreamed up this strategy, but it's a pretty bad one.

155 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:35 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: IronJack
Hillary Clinton Lite is precisely what you will get if you elect Rudy Giulian

I put the war as issue #1! Rudy isn't Hillary lite. He could eat her for breakfast and still ask for more.

Don't be fooled by his smile...as a former New Yorker and a person who puts the war with Islamofascism #1...Rudy is a killer.

He will lock this country down to islam. He will empower the courts and he will define this enemy down to the bone.

If you think otherwise...you don't know Rudy.

156 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:52 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Doninnj
" We still have a long way to go.....Rudy is in the lead now and it's up to the others to prove themselves and take over. "

We have a long way to go to be supporting a Liberal at this stage.

Why surrender? Why not fight?

157 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:59 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Howlin
Then why on God's earth do you do that 24/7 on this very forum?

I thought I asked you not to post to me, Howlin.

158 posted on 01/30/2007 5:58:05 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: narses
What part of LIBERAL does RG not have?

Liberals generally do not believe in locking up criminals and throwing away the key.

Liberals are not generally hated - really, really hated - by Al Sharpton, Alton Maddox, the Village Voice, the NYCLU, and every commie scumbag in the five boroughs.

Liberals generally do not believe that people are responsible for the choices they make.

159 posted on 01/30/2007 5:58:05 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Melas

Will you support Hunter if he defeats Rudy?


160 posted on 01/30/2007 5:58:19 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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