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Giuliani to star at GOP convention (What happen to the lovefest with McCain and What about Duncan?)
Ventura Star ^ | 2/9/07 | Timm Herdt

Posted on 02/09/2007 10:31:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

"He already has formed a strong network of supporters in California, largely with the help of former gubernatorial nominee Bill Simon"


Wasn't Bill Simon a conservative darling nominee who lost to Gray Davis? Will conservatives follow his lead now or declare him a non-conservative?


21 posted on 02/09/2007 11:09:50 AM PST by IntelliQuark
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To: ilgipper

Sounds like a good time for a third party candidate.

"Yeah, let's put the Dems in charge of foreign policy instead of someone who is 100% on board with the continued prosecution of the war on terror. Good plan."



Anyone "conservative" or Republican who would even entertain the thought of a third party candidate is endorsing Hillary and no better than the left wing scum they profess to disdain.

A REAL conservative wouldn't think of it.


22 posted on 02/09/2007 11:11:15 AM PST by Doninnj
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To: ilgipper

Hey I got a better idea, while we're already in the minority start getting rid of these Liberal Republicans and pick a Presidential candidate that serves the real ideas of the base on foreign and domestic policy.


23 posted on 02/09/2007 11:11:34 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Doninnj

It sure is nice of you to decide for all real conservatives.


24 posted on 02/09/2007 11:12:46 AM PST by upsdriver
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To: Doninnj
The Republican base Conservatives are lost with Rudy anyway so what difference is a third party candidate? How about the Republican party just put a real base candidate out there and we won't have to argue so many Rudy liberal ideas fitting in the party?
25 posted on 02/09/2007 11:15:04 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: msnimje

No, mainstream media didn't gravitate toward Rudy, they were dragged there by the poll numbers. McCain came in third on the Fox poll and Lutz (sp? the pollster)agreed with the numbers. On top of all McCain's other deficiencies, he is now facing the problem that all the other major candidates have sworn to forgo federal matching funds, and McCain's name is attatched to the bill that campaign finance bill designed to limit funding.


26 posted on 02/09/2007 11:17:42 AM PST by Eva
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To: tobyhill

"The Republican base Conservatives are lost with Rudy anyway so what difference is a third party candidate? How about the Republican party just put a real base candidate out there and we won't have to argue so many Rudy liberal ideas fitting in the party?"


If someone else comes along and gets the nomination a la Duncan Hunter or Newt, the base will be satisfied and I will gladly cast my vote for them.

However, if Rudy get's the nomination, ANY conservative or Republican who endorses and votes for a third party candidate is a traitor scumbag and will hav cast a vote for Hillary.

Do I make myself clear?


27 posted on 02/09/2007 11:21:47 AM PST by Doninnj
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To: Doninnj

I can not in good conscience ever vote for Rino Rudy. I will go third party if he is nominated.


28 posted on 02/09/2007 11:23:12 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Disambiguator
It's puzzling, but it appears as if the fix is in. This article is evidence.

They can generate all the hype they want. But if they can't gin up the votes, Rudy ain't goin' nowhere.
29 posted on 02/09/2007 11:23:35 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Doninnj
However, if Rudy get's the nomination, ANY conservative or Republican who endorses and votes for a third party candidate is a traitor scumbag and will hav cast a vote for Hillary. Do I make myself clear?

I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party. Rudy and all his RINO pals and all their money will never change that.
30 posted on 02/09/2007 11:25:29 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Doninnj

The conservative base doesn't matter anymore... or so it seems. the lesson of '06 is lost,, and frankly , was never recognized.

It's all about the mushy middle, yaknow. That is who is being pandered to daily as things play out here and nationally.

imo, it's nothing but a Progressive plunge off the cliff in hopes the parachute made out of the Big Tent cloth will hold.


31 posted on 02/09/2007 11:28:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Doninnj
"A REAL conservative wouldn't think of it."

A real conservative wouldn't even think about nominating Rudy.

32 posted on 02/09/2007 11:30:42 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Doninnj
"A REAL conservative wouldn't think of it."

A real conservative wouldn't even think about nominating Rudy.

33 posted on 02/09/2007 11:30:47 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Doninnj

I will not vote for the Rino.


35 posted on 02/09/2007 11:34:29 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Doninnj

Let me make this as clear as I can, I will vote for whom ever I want, even third party, and that doesn't make me a "traitor" if I choose to do so.

As for your question,"Do I make myself clear?", yes you do, you're a complete moron who has delusions of grandeur.


36 posted on 02/09/2007 11:34:40 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Worrying about Rudy is not the issue. Congress is.

Presidents have most power over Judges and Foreign Affairs. The rest is controlled by Congress.

If Congress remains Rat, it doesn't matter if Jerry Falwell is President, no socially conservative legislation will be considered, let alone implemented.



37 posted on 02/09/2007 11:35:47 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: Doninnj

I like Rudy and am likely to vote for him if he can convince me that he'll repudiate his gun-grabbing ways, but this "the other side is worse/Anybody But Hillary" argument seems less than motivating. It didn't work for the Anybody But Bush/vote Kerry crowd, and it won't work for us.

We need to give people a positive reason to vote for someone, instead of just insulting people.


38 posted on 02/09/2007 11:35:51 AM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Antoninus

"I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party. Rudy and all his RINO pals and all their money will never change that."

Perhaps you didn't understand the first time....

if Rudy get's the nomination, ANY conservative or Republican who endorses and votes for a third party candidate is a traitor scumbag and will have cast a vote for Hillary, SURRENDER AND DEFEAT.

Do I make myself clear this time?


39 posted on 02/09/2007 11:36:37 AM PST by Doninnj
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Do I make myself clear this time?

Perfectly. You're willing to sell out your principles for a smoke-and-mirrors show which is exactly what you'd get with Rudy.

I don't vote for liberals. Do I make myself clear?
40 posted on 02/09/2007 11:40:41 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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