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Rudy Giuliani Says He Backs Pro-Life Laws But Supports Legal Abortion
LifeNews.com ^ | February 9, 2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 02/09/2007 12:05:09 PM PST by GulfBreeze

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Most of the potential GOP candidates for president fall somewhere along the scale ranging from reliably pro-life to opposing abortion but supporting embryonic stem cell research. Rudy Giuliani falls squarely in the pro-abortion camp but he's now trying to reassure pro-life voters he's not that bad. Giuliani has always been in favor of legalized abortion -- even supporting the grisly partial-birth abortion procedure that kills an unborn child halfway through the birthing process.

On the Fox news program Hannity & Colmes on Monday night he used some pretty strong language against abortion, though he admitted he still is pro-abortion when it comes to whether it should be legal.

"Where I stand on abortion is, I oppose it. I don't like it. I hate it. I think abortion is something that, as a personal matter, I would advise somebody against," he said.

"However, I believe in a woman's right to choose," Giuliani admitted. "I think ultimately you have to leave that to a disagreement of conscience and you have to respect the choice that somebody makes."

The former mayor tried to reassure pro-life advocates by saying he would appoint judges in the mold of the ones President Bush nominated and pro-life advocates supported.

"I think the appointment of judges that I would make would be very similar to, if not exactly the same as, the last two judges that were appointed," Giuliani said.

"If I had been president over the last four years, I can't think of any, you know, that I'd do anything different with that," he said, referring to Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito.

"I would appoint judges that interpreted the Constitution rather than invented it, understood the difference between being a judge and being a legislator," he said. "I do think you have sort of a general philosophical approach that you want from a justice, and I think a strict constructionist would be probably the way I'd describe it."

On the program, Giuliani was asked about partial-birth abortions. He previously told CNN's Inside Politics in a 1999 interview, that he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Yet, on Monday, Giuliani said that he supports a ban on partial-birth abortion as long as there is a provision to protect the life of the mother.

"If it has provision for the life of the mother, then I would support it," he told the Fox News program.

Giuliani also said he supported parental notification laws as long as their is a judicial bypass for cases when a teenager is abused by her parents.

"I think you have to have a judicial bypass. If you do, you can have parental notification," he said.

Will these concessions and apparent flip-flop on partial-birth abortion be enough to gain the support of pro-life advocates?

Connie Mackey, senior vice president of the legislative arm of the Family Research Council says no.

There are some who say, ‘Well, all we need from Giuliani, for instance, is a promise that he’ll put in a judge that will be a good constitutionalist,’" she told Congressional Quarterly on Friday. "And we would disagree with that.”

Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, was more blunt.

He says he thinks Giuliani is too pro-abortion to deserve support form the overwhelming majority of Republican voters who are pro-life. Perkins also says he doesn't think he will be able to capture the party's nod.

Should Giuliani get the party's nod for president, Perkins said it would likely hand the White House over to the Democratic candidate because pro-life voters would have no one to support.

The last several elections have been between pro-life Republican and pro-abortion Democratic candidates and a Giuliani nomination would change that dynamic.

"If by some chance Giuliani were to gain the Republican nomination it would set up a very similar scenario that we had last November," Perkins told CBN. "An unenthusiastic Republican base which will suppress turnout and set up a Democratic victory."

Republican voters have previously turned away pro-abortion candidates from capturing the primary nod, including former California Gov. Pete Wilson and Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter. Republicans haven't had a pro-abortion nominee since Gerald Ford in 1976.

Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are the top two candidates in the polls apart from Giuliani.

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee are also running and drawing significant support from the pro-life community.

Other potential Republican candidates include pro-life former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, pro-life Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, pro-life Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, and former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 2008; babykiller; bs; electionpresident; fiscalconservative; flipflop; giuliani; gop; koolaid; nonimportantissue; ny; phony; president; prolife; republicans; rudy2008; spincycle
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That headline really reminds me of Kerry's "for it before I was against it".
1 posted on 02/09/2007 12:05:10 PM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: GulfBreeze
It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
2 posted on 02/09/2007 12:06:23 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


3 posted on 02/09/2007 12:06:48 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Antoninus; areafiftyone; upchuck; bushfamfan; Fierce Allegiance; Hydroshock; SoCalPol; ...

Ping -
Hillary Clinton DID NOT put this story out.


4 posted on 02/09/2007 12:07:35 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: GulfBreeze

IBGAK


5 posted on 02/09/2007 12:08:37 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: GulfBreeze

Given a choice between Hillary and Giuliani, who does LifeNews.com support?


6 posted on 02/09/2007 12:08:50 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: NYer

I'm confused about how Rudy's abortion policy differs from Hillary Clinton's (who gets a 100% rating from NARL).


7 posted on 02/09/2007 12:09:09 PM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: GulfBreeze

Giuliani again is "finessing" the abortion issue just like a stinkin' Clinton. He's got no choice though. He's pro-abortion, he has a history of being pro-abortion, but he knows that a pro-abort can't win the GOP nomination. He's doing his best to SAY the right things in an attempt to deceive Republicans into supporting him.


8 posted on 02/09/2007 12:09:29 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: GulfBreeze

I would be fine with Rudy if he were to flip on abortion. The last pro-abortion GOP candidate who flipped appointed Clarence Thomas. That was a fantastic appointment. Just renounce the dark side Rudy.


9 posted on 02/09/2007 12:09:45 PM PST by MovementConservative (The US will win in Iraq. Thank you all US troops.)
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To: NYer

So what? Please tell me what the PRESIDENT is supposed to do bsides say he is pro life.


10 posted on 02/09/2007 12:10:18 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: My2Cents
Given a choice between Hillary and Giuliani, who does LifeNews.com support?

No one has given us that choice yet.

11 posted on 02/09/2007 12:10:38 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: GulfBreeze
Politics over principles, any day. We have no leadership nor potential leaders.
12 posted on 02/09/2007 12:11:31 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GulfBreeze

Giuliani: I believe abortion should be safe, legal and rare.


13 posted on 02/09/2007 12:11:38 PM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: MovementConservative

Rather than Rudy's personal opinion on abortion, I am more interested in knowing if Rudy thinks Roe v Wade is bad law and an improper intrusion by the Supreme Court into what should be a state issue. I believe it is possible for someone to hold this position and still believe that the decision to terminate a pregnancy belongs to the mother.


14 posted on 02/09/2007 12:11:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: GulfBreeze

Rudy's Moral Compass...


15 posted on 02/09/2007 12:12:18 PM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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To: GulfBreeze

Rudy will be so rebuilt in the next few months that he will need a patent on himself.


16 posted on 02/09/2007 12:12:44 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: GulfBreeze
---"With Rudy McRomney splitting the "politics over principles" vote, a guy like Hunter could move in and capture the base."---

Of course not, Hitlery wants Rudy. She was going to beat him in his home state of NY, and she'd beat him in the National Election. Rudy is her dream candidate - a man who agrees with her on almost everything but the war, who'll be stuck selling a highly unpopular war to Moderates and Independents who despise it. Meanwhile, she takes polls and tells them all whatever they want to hear.

And as all that happens, Rudy gets flanked on the right by a solidly Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Traditional-Family candidate who costs him all of the swing states.
17 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:07 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: GulfBreeze

omg.

first edwards "i hired them before i fired them before i didnt fire them" and now rudys "i supported abortion before i didnt support abortion, but i support abortion"

How kerryesque of them. right out of the dem play book!

Do they really think we are that dumb? SIGH......


18 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:28 PM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08...HI MOM:))
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To: GulfBreeze
Careful, Rudy, fence-straddling can damage some important equipment.


19 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:57 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: GulfBreeze

---"Hillary Clinton DID NOT put this story out."---

Of course not, Hitlery wants Rudy. She was going to beat him in his home state of NY, and she'd beat him in the National Election. Rudy is her dream candidate - a man who agrees with her on almost everything but the war, who'll be stuck selling a highly unpopular war to Moderates and Independents who despise it. Meanwhile, she takes polls and tells them all whatever they want to hear.

And as all that happens, Rudy gets flanked on the right by a solidly Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Traditional-Family candidate who costs him all of the swing states.


20 posted on 02/09/2007 12:14:13 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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