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Proof of Iranian Nuclear Weapons Program Demanded in US Congress [Ron Paul asks Condi]
ShortNews ^ | February 9, 2007 | ShortNews

Posted on 02/10/2007 9:41:04 PM PST by freedomdefender

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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Thanks!


21 posted on 02/10/2007 10:12:20 PM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Calpernia

He committed political suicide years ago. He just found a good district to get re-elected in.

Ron Paul is EXCELLENT on most fiscal and small-government issues, but unacceptable on border issues and the War on Terror. He doesn't get it.


22 posted on 02/10/2007 10:13:55 PM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: freedomdefender

"Unproven charges against Iran's nuclear intentions are eerily reminiscent of the false charges made against Iraq."


Yea, and there was no evidence against OJ Simpson either!


23 posted on 02/10/2007 10:14:51 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: RockinRight

Agreed


24 posted on 02/10/2007 10:15:17 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Too late.


25 posted on 02/10/2007 10:15:48 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: gcruse
Bush likes deficit spending, big government, and being in power.

And Reagan didn't?

26 posted on 02/10/2007 10:18:22 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: rlmorel

Quite Welcome,,,It's a great site for info on all this mess that's going on in the world,,,great maps-n-pics of
these places...;0)


27 posted on 02/10/2007 10:18:40 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: freedomdefender
Why are so many people willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ahmadinejad, Bin-Laden and so on, the benefit of the doubt? On what basis do they trust these people so? Why is the United States assumed to have sinister intent in every thing it does but mass-murdering, religious fanatics must be "understood?" Mr. Paul, bite me, moron!
28 posted on 02/10/2007 10:28:59 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: freedomdefender

Well Ron, we don't have good spies in these very closed countries so we don't really know what they're doing with any specificity.

We didn't have "proof" that the Japanese were going to hit Pearl Harbor either.

And when you have that proof it will be too late. And this is a good example why you will never be President - thank God.


29 posted on 02/10/2007 10:30:04 PM PST by DB
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To: rlmorel
Like Ron Paul, I would like to see PROOF. We certainly didn't have any proof of it in Iraq, yet look at the mess we're in there now. Many countries are in possession of nuclear capability and/or weapons, and we helped some of them develop them. Why is Iran different?

I think it's all about regime change, and until I learn differently, my opinion stands.

30 posted on 02/10/2007 10:31:36 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: freedomdefender
Iraq WAS working to build a nuclear device. Think what the world would be like if the US never invaded in 1991 and seriously DEGRADED (not eliminated) Saddam's capability to construct a nuclear device. Saddam wouldn't let the UN inspectors determine his capability in the following years. Saddam had every desire to "wipe Israel off the map" and was not forthcoming to IAEA.

SOUND FAMILIAR?
31 posted on 02/10/2007 10:36:45 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Reaganesque
Why are so many people willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ahmadinejad, Bin-Laden and so on...

Because the last time I gave this administration the benefit of the doubt about WMD's, we ended up up to our necks in Iraq. I'm inclined to believe that Iran is pursuing nukes, but I'd better see some rock-solid evidence of that before we decide to make for Tehran.

32 posted on 02/10/2007 10:42:50 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Zeroisanumber
"Rock-solid evidence" is a megaton disaster in Manhattan.
33 posted on 02/10/2007 10:48:08 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Reagan was quite the deficit spender, so...oops, I guess Reagan doesn't qualify as conservative either".

Reagan was also duped by a democrat congress. Reagan's tax cuts, TEFRA, congress spent 2:1 in dollars collected from increased revenues.

34 posted on 02/10/2007 10:48:23 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: janetgreen
Many countries are in possession of nuclear capability and/or weapons, and we helped some of them develop them. Why is Iran different?

So in other words it's okay for Iran to develop nuclear weapons?

It's clear BDS has totally destroyed your brain.

And just FYI, the only nation that the U.S. helped to develop nuclear weapons was Great Britain and that is because they were partners on the Manhattan Project.

35 posted on 02/10/2007 10:52:15 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: COEXERJ145
So in other words it's okay for Iran to develop nuclear weapons?

Not what I said. In other words, it's not OK for us to be saber rattling and threatening to bomb another country under false pretenses.

BDS? I would say that Mr. Bush caused lots of this in America, considering his lack of intelligent leadership. According to his poll numbers, he's hardly number one on America's (or the world's) hit parade. Look it up. No need to throw insults, COEXER, this is supposed to be a conservative website, not just GOP.

FYI, I'll vote for Duncan Hunter if I get the chance, not for another RINO.

36 posted on 02/10/2007 11:31:11 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: COEXERJ145
LOL, BDS for sure, let's not fuss about the terrorist state of Iran's nukes because the evil Bush wants amnesty and spent to much.

Now that's intelligence for sure!
37 posted on 02/10/2007 11:40:18 PM PST by roses of sharon
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Ron Paul, a true American patriot. I'm from Texas and I can't love the guy enough. If he runs for president I will devote my time and energy for his campaign.


38 posted on 02/11/2007 12:28:02 AM PST by TheLebowskiDude
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To: Reaganesque
Why are so many people willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ahmadinejad, Bin-Laden and so on, the benefit of the doubt? On what basis do they trust these people so? Why is the United States assumed to have sinister intent in every thing it does but mass-murdering, religious fanatics must be "understood?" Mr. Paul, bite me, moron!

Asking for proof is no sin but rather a wise move congress should insist upon. The main problem is I do not believe a credible answer can come from the U.S. State Department. Intelligence gathering on foreign nations needs to be put under the oversight of the Pentagon and get the globalist/socialist in the state department out of it. Ron Paul is not the moron you think. It wasn't the U.S. who put Saddam's nuke program out of commission but rather Israel. Where Bush sends Condi in every single time to stop Israel from dealing with terrorism Ron Paul likely would let Israel do the cleaning up needed doing.

Next is the point Bush has not exactly been up front on Iraq. Actually he strayed way off course from what he said he believed when he ran against Gore concerning war and nation building.

Paul is one of the few in congress who sees our military as having limits in how much it can do and for how long especially with it's now limited numbers. So did Bush before he was elected and again he changed his own beliefs on that as well.

Ron Paul has called for something the Speaker of the House and SML should have done before ever sending troops to Iraq. He has called for a Declaration of War. A declaration of war is quite different than the Congressional Resolution authorizing use of force. Actually that type of resolution is highly questionable at best as to it being Constitutional. The Declaration of war though binds congress and the senate as well as POTUS to stand behind it.

A question could be put forth that IF Iran has nukes or is building such then why has not neither the GOP congress nor Bush increased our troops strengths since 1996 to deal with it then? Does that not seem just a wee bit strange to you?

I wish more members of congress would take their job as serious as this man. If you sit down and think about what he says and does it makes sense. I don't think he's giving anyone a benefit of the doubt. He ask hard questions that needs to be answered straight forward. Only congress can declare war and congress has a right to know.

39 posted on 02/11/2007 12:30:08 AM PST by cva66snipe (Rudy, the Liberal Media's first choice for the GOP nomination. Not on my vote not even in Nov 2008..)
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To: cva66snipe
Words of GW Bush in 2000 in the debates:

Moderator:How would you go about as president deciding when it was in the national interest to use U.S. force, generally?

Responder: Well, if it's in our vital national interest, and that means whether our territory is threatened or people could be harmed, whether or not the alliances are -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force.

Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear. Whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win. Whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy.

I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place. So I would take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power.

Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places. And therefore I want to rebuild the military power.

Uh huh and downsizing accomplishes that how? We are still at 1996 troop strength levels. Ron Paul has every reason to ask hard questions of this administration. So do we.

40 posted on 02/11/2007 12:37:23 AM PST by cva66snipe (Rudy, the Liberal Media's first choice for the GOP nomination. Not on my vote not even in Nov 2008..)
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