Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan
Maybe he hit and killed someone while he was driving drunk. That might have been left out of the letter--especially if the victim was a woman or child--in order to create a more sympathetic portrayal of the offender.
hey someday you could be thrown in the slammer for advocating spanking or refusing to give up you guns; either way whether it affects you personally or not ain't the issue its simply un-Christian to allow this sort of thing to prevail.
Speaking of which a fair amount of the folks Christ showed sympathy for were criminals.
He didn't say he was in a federal prison.
Your post addresses a subject that needs to be addressed, unless we in America consider that homosexual rape is the appropriate punishment for almost any crime that gets you prison time. Or even the appropriate result of an accusation. In my view, if that is the punishment we will administer, it needs to be part of the code.
I think a lot of folks here ought to keep in mind the phrase, "There but for the grace of God go I."
I'm shakin' it boss!
Yep, bring back the chain gangs. ....or Sheriff Joe Arpaio-type prisons. No drugs, no rape, no nonsense. Hard labor all day and the Disney Channel for an hour or two before a much needed sleep.
Also, consider that the example in this case: the guy went to prison with a drinking problem. He will come out with AIDS, perhaps as a sexual predator. He may choose to take his frustrations on on children. He may become a rapist. Or maybe he will just become a street bum. One thing that is sure is that he is unlikely to reintigrate into society and have a nice family life.
So, we have turned him into a lifetime liability by our inability to control the gangs running our prisons. What will he cost the taxpayer by the time he's run out his life? Millions and millions.
And don't get a vindictive ex-wife who plays the "abuse" card.
Unfortunately, in the real world, it does not always work that way: http://www.innocenceproject.org/ Also, just think of prosectors such as Nifong.
Granted, it's probably not incredibly common, but it's not incredibly rare, either.
No, not the same thing. Beat the crap out of someone is administering justice. Turning your back on a crime against a convict is another.
I don't think the lack of professionalism is proper. Rather, I only offered an explanation for it.
I'm not sure why murder and rape are now considered lesser crimes than they were when I was a kid, but that's the world we live in. I believe that rapists and child molesters should have their genitalia removed. The punishment should fit the crime.
Prison is not just for criminals. This is a real problem. I have a friend who did time and he said that in the Iowa prison he was in there was no rape or harassment at all.
That's about asinine. Ever break the speed limit by 1 mph? Do you have shoelaces and a gun? Do you have bleach and ammonia in the same house?
You are right, this should not be happening in Amercian prisons and I never said it should be. The fact that it is means we are doing a bad job at watching the inmates.
One more time, the person I responded to posted something that if you read their words indicates it's very easy to be arrested and jailed in this country even if you are 100% innocent. I don't agree.
8"x8" cells. No personal effects. Toilet and concrete cot, only.
Already been tried. The original "penitentiaries" were organizational incarnations of Quaker idealism. With their faith in "the inner light," and conviction that people with time to repent would do so, the Quakers devised secular monasteries. Hardened criminals would, if given enough time by themselves, see the error of their ways and come to repentance/reformation.
Didn't work that way. The innovators failed to allow for human depravity. What actually happened was, the "penitents" went insane. But, the buildings were already built, and personnel hired, so the failed experiment continued.
Biblical justice has no room for long-term incarceration. Execution, yes. Fines, yes. Penal servitude, yes. The goal of Biblical justice is not the reformation of the offender, but the restoration of the damaged social order, and the "making whole" of the victims.
So true.
Meting out justice is the prerogative of society, through due process of law. It's not the purview of gangs in prison. Inmates being able to get away with this sort of thing indicates that they're the ones running the institutions, and that's completely unsatisfactory, whether you have sympathy for this particular individual or not.
I read Liddy's Autobio.He seemed to handle the problem pretty well as I recall.Earned the inmate's respect,even the black ones you might have suspected would have had it out for him.
Bingo mysterio!
It is the lame-brain way to not have the discussion they know nothing about/are scared to confront.
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