A Message to Rudy Giuliani and His Supporters (VANITY)

Self | February 23, 2007 | Alberta's Child

[Corin Stormhands]

I'm personally thinking Jim Gilmore will be the first one out. But that could be wishful thinking.

[Hydroshock]

I now have a governor that thinks he is king

What part of TX are you in?

[org.whodat]

The difference I see is of degree, rather than type.

So forgiving the whore and letting her live in peace and with respect, as opposed to killing her is a matter of degree to you.

Brilliant and gracious on your part. "Sac off"

[carton253]

On the President and abortion, you might be interested in post 260. I think you will find it enlightening.

I would his Supreme Court justices to the list as well.

That's for helping me out with the horse!

[Nonstatist]

I think Guliani will win the nomination , so you get to vote for him or Hitlery or some third party wacko or you can take the day off. ..In any event take your time deciding. Its many months before the election.

[LtdGovt]

The3 number of peoiple who have publically stated they will go third party rather then vote for Rino Rudy

Quite right, there are only three of them. You, TommyDale and someone else.

[El Laton Caliente]

You might find a few Fudd supporters on the hunting forums, but Rudy has about nil support on any of the large gun message boards. The word is long since out... Gunsnet.net AR-15.com Gunboards.com Glocktalk.com HKPro.com try any of them, post a pro-Rudy thread and watch the pile on.

If the GOP runs Rudy, watch them loose 5 to 10 million Second Amendment voters. We voted the Dems out in 94 and helped to keep Gore and Kerry out.

The Second crowd was already disappointed in the GOP for not rewarding their support by doing away with some of the more obnoxious gun laws. Now nominate an anti-gunner...

[LtdGovt]

Trivial.

[Al Simmons]

Well, the GOP voters will pick who they want to pick. And this forum (despite some delusions of grandeur among some of its members) won't have diddly to do with it.

Unlike some Ostriches on this forum, I WILL support whoever the GOP nominee is against "Stalin in a pantsuit" in November.

And while I am leaning towards Rudy because I think he can win, I'm keeping my mind open.

But paeans of Rudy character assassination that are flooding FR and that consistently ignore or downplay THE key issue of our day - National Security - on which issue Rudy has a hands-down advantage, aren't gonna sway my mind. If anything, the more over-the-top some of y'all are, the more I'm leaning towards supporting him in the primaries (and living in CA, this is my one chance to make my vote count - given recent CA presidential trends).

So you all go on and forget RWR's 11th Commandment, act holier-than-though, and thump your Bibles til you're blue in the face.

You're not gonna change anyone's minds that way.

And in the end, when the votes are cast, all this screeching will amount to is "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[Spiff]

I'm personally thinking Jim Gilmore will be the first one out. But that could be wishful thinking.

Why would you wish Jim Gilmore out of the race?

[CindyDawg]

Mexico

[Hydroshock]

Game this. What happens if the reps run Rino Rudy and the rats run Richardson. He is at least tolerated by the NRA.

[B Knotts]

Excellent post...well thought-out.

I've been saying for a while that Giuliani will not fly as the nominee, and that we need to find a consensus candidate who can appeal to the various wings of the party.

[joylyn]

See my reply to another who asked more politely -- post #208.

[Hydroshock]

Parts of TX do feel like that sometimes.

[Lakeshark]

Heh.

You should see our Governor if you want someone beyond pathetic.........

It's a good thing she can't run for Pres.

[OKIEDOC]

"Am starting to "Mark" pro Rudy McRomney advocates.. in my little red book.."

REPLY:

I believe that you might want to seriously rethink that comment.

It sounds so much just like the comments that many in the Hellary campaign have said about Osama Obama supporters.

Right now I support Duncan Hunter and if given the opportunity would vote for my neighbor just down the road.

However, the election of anyone of the three Dimocrat Socialist Stooges will imperil your way of life, country and children's future if not the present.

[Rudder]

I look at the race for President as contest in management skills. The winner is the one who has brought to bear the best skills to out-distance his opponents. There are so many variables one has to consider as a candidate, such as the vagaries of the MSM, local and regional political differences, ideologies of varying stripes, fund-raising, gaining (or losing) endorsements, building an effective campaign staff and last, but not least, effectively addressing the major issues of the moment.

The major issues of the moment are to defeat the dems and win big with a successful candidate who will vigorously prosecute the WOT.

I have volunteered for Duncan Hunter's campaign because I like his ideology. But, I haven't heard word one from anyone associated with his campaign.

I also expressed interest to Giuliani's campaign and I have been contacted by them.

While his ideology is much more acceptable to me, Hunter is doing a lousy job---for whatever reason, it's incumbent upon him to eliminate his shortcomings---in running his campaign. He is polling single digits at best, with numbers which are consistently below the typical margin of error. He is not doing those things he needs to do, like getting newsworthy events and raising the gobs of cash (around 100 million dollars) necessary to conduct a proper campaign. Some say, "just wait and Hunter will..." Why wait? The guy is getting off to a terrible start and shows no indication he will be able to catch up with the pack.

So, I've decided not to carry Hunter's water. He will have to do the hard work himself, and if he finally gets competitive, I'll be voting for him in the primary.

However, since the goal is not to lose to the dems, I'll vote in general for the GOP nominee, and I suspect that will be Rudy Giuliani.

[You Dirty Rats]

Ronald Reagan invited us into the party, along with Democrats that had a belief in morality. From the tone of the Rudy supporters, I guess our welcome is being withdrawn.

Nonsense. No Rudy supporter is suggesting anyone leave the Republican Party. On the contrary, most believe that we should have a fair primary season and then unite behind the winner to beat the 'rats.

It is those attacking Rudy who are threatening or promising not to vote for him & calling those who support him RINOs, traitors, sell outs, phony conservatives, etc. That is of course your right, but don't expect to get any sympathy whatsoever for the false charge that the anti-Rudy crowd are being "forced out of the Party". If those who oppose Rudy have the numbers to nominate another candidate, then Rudy will deserve to lose. If not, then whining about losing a fair fight and running to a third party or staying home because Hunter or whoever got outvoted will make those who whine look like sore losermen.

[Gop1040]

"If Rudy has this much opposition from his own party, can you imagine the crap that will be tossed at him from the Democrats?"

When opposition within his own party start quoting hit pieces by the leftest media to try and trash Rudy, then I know that panic has set in. As far as how much opposition there is, check out today's Real Clear Politics' National Poll Averages:

Guiliani 35.4%
McCain 20.5%
Romney 7.5%
Gingrich 10.8%

Not bad for a guy who wore a dress at a NYC Press Sponsored Charity Roast in 2000.

BTW, whose your pristine candidate in this race? Where does he stand in the Real Clear Politics national poll?