Urumchi is where the red-headed Caucasian mummies were found.
Posted on 02/24/2007 7:38:25 PM PST by blam
Urumchi is where the red-headed Caucasian mummies were found.
The wild horse theory seems plausible. There's even the stereotypical feeding a [domesticated] horse an apple (and a sugar cube).
If there was a wild horse theory, that would make sense, too.
He now believes that apple seeds were carried out of the forest to the West around 7,000 years ago by domesticated horses from the region that fed on the fruit.What, were they constipated? Obviously if this did in fact take place, the movement of the apple was due to the movement of humans. Mr. Juniper was either misquoted or is a numbskull.
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Heh. Dainty phrasing, that. You'd think horses had opposable thumbs...
In the language of Kazakhstan, the city Almaty (formerly Alma-ata) means 'the father of apples', and the region in the south produces some of the best apples I've ever tried. One variety is called 'aport' and puts those sawdust lumps that they sell in US grocery stores to shame.
..and the reason the English fruit couldn't be the progenitor of the Chinese variety is?
Because it wouldn't be politically correct.
It's Chinnghis Quan's fault!
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"Forsline went on seven of the collecting trips, including four to central Asia. The trips resulted in at least a doubling of the known genetic diversity of apple trees, according to Forsline. The scientists returned with 949 apple tree accessions from central Asia alone. Other excursions were to China, the Caucasus region including Russia and Turkey, and Germany."
"Fazio and Forsline are most impressed with the material collected in Kazakhstan, especially accessions of Malus sieversii, an important forerunner of the domestic apple. This is logical, given that Kazakhstan is a likely ancestral origin of familiar domestic apples (Malus x domestica) such as Red Delicious, Golden Delicious and McIntosh."
How did they get to North America?
Fazio and Forsline are most impressed with the material collected in Kazakhstan, especially accessions of Malus sieversii, an important forerunner of the domestic apple. This is logical, given that Kazakhstan is a likely ancestral origin of familiar domestic apples (Malus x domestica) such as Red Delicious, Golden Delicious and McIntosh.
According to Forsline, the Kazak trees showed significant resistance to apple scab—-the most important fungal disease of apples—as well as to fire blight. They were highly resistant against Phytophthora cactorum, which causes collar rot, and Rhizoctonia solani, an agent of apple replant disease, according to Fazio. Both researchers found genes in the Kazak apples that allow them to adapt to mountainous, near-desert, and cold and dry regions.
Ahh so the english (maybe the Celts) came from China, velly intresting. And even a possibility. They did find red haired people buried in that region. Time for a grant !
Have you ever had a real apple? The "delicious" apples sold in supermarkets are the most misnamed fruit ever. They were bred for size, a uniform color and ability to survive a week in a boxcar without bruising -- everything but flavor.
The best apples I've ever had were from roadside stands in the Southern Appalachians. they're small, spotty, and bruise more easily, but boy howdy, do they taste good.
I assume they came from Europe as seed stock in colonial times or shortly thereafter.
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