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National Geographic: Melting Mars Means Man-Made Global Warming a Myth
NewsBusters, National Geographic ^ | 3/1/2007 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 03/01/2007 8:43:13 AM PST by AT7Saluki

...Regardless, the earth-shattering piece began ...

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

The article marvelously continued:

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: "Global Warming Fast Facts".)

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; duncanhunter; giuliani; globalwarming; mars; nationalgeographic; rudy; sun
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Seems like something else is melting fast: Algore et.al.'s 15 minutes. And note that the theory that GW ISN'T happening is controversial.
1 posted on 03/01/2007 8:43:14 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm
spoooooky stuff.


2 posted on 03/01/2007 8:45:45 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: AT7Saluki

either check the emmisions on the rovers or ...

take back the oscar from al bore


3 posted on 03/01/2007 8:47:13 AM PST by daku ("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
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To: AT7Saluki
And note that the theory that GW ISN'T happening is controversial.

That's only the first question. Global warming may well be happening. Assuming it is, the second and more important question is: what's causing it?

Folks tend to combine these two questions such that "Global Warming, Therefore Our Fault".

The counter by such noted scientists as Mr. Limbaugh is to say, "Not Our Fault, therefore No Global Warming."

Interestingly, these are logically equivalent statements -- and both wrong.

4 posted on 03/01/2007 8:47:48 AM PST by r9etb
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To: AT7Saluki

Ban SUV's on Mars.


5 posted on 03/01/2007 8:48:26 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: taxed2death

Tinfoil stuff too.


6 posted on 03/01/2007 8:48:53 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: AT7Saluki

If Mars is warming anyway, let's terraform the damn place and turn it into a CONSERVATIVE planet-wide Republic like the US is supposed to me. ;-)


7 posted on 03/01/2007 8:49:36 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: AT7Saluki
Based on reading from both sides of the controversy, IMHO, global warming is indeed happening. But it is being caused by the sun and there is little we mere mortals can do about it.

Methinks part of this "mass hysteria" is to allow a bunch of people to apply for funding to keep chasing something that doesn't exist.

If global warming is debunked, they'll have to find a real job.

8 posted on 03/01/2007 8:50:49 AM PST by upchuck (Oh, so they have Internet on computers now! ~ H. Simpson)
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To: AT7Saluki

About time!


9 posted on 03/01/2007 8:52:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: RockinRight

Better yet, let's ban AlGoracle to Mars and let him preach to the choir! ;-)


10 posted on 03/01/2007 8:52:37 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: AT7Saluki

It's the little green men's fault.


11 posted on 03/01/2007 8:53:14 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: r9etb

I've always thought that those who expect our climate to remain static are the kooks.

Of course global warming is happening. As this and other articles contend, it's not just happening on earth and there is no hard reason to believe it is a bad thing or caused by man.

I'm angry because the weather has been hijacked as a political platform by Democrats. The freakin' WEATHER.


12 posted on 03/01/2007 8:54:23 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RockinRight

13 posted on 03/01/2007 8:55:45 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is time to stop the left at the wall.)
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To: upchuck
"Based on reading from both sides of the controversy, IMHO, global warming is indeed happening. But it is being caused by the sun and there is little we mere mortals can do about it."

If I remember by pre-PC history correctly, the Medieval Warm Period was quite preferable to the Little Ice Age which followed.

14 posted on 03/01/2007 8:56:06 AM PST by GourmetDan
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To: AT7Saluki
Unbelievable... We are so rotten that our greenhouse gas destruction of mother earth is leading to the destruction of Mars! You know what this means?

Of Course! George Bush could destroy the entire GALAXY!!! HE MUST BE STOPPED!!!

15 posted on 03/01/2007 8:56:17 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: AT7Saluki

Quick! Let's put out mirrors!


16 posted on 03/01/2007 8:57:55 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: r9etb

My understanding is that by our best yet uncertain measures the following two claims are true: a) the earth is slightly warmer now than one hundred years ago, b) the earth is cooler now than 1000 years ago. So is that warming or cooling?


17 posted on 03/01/2007 8:58:20 AM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
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To: AT7Saluki
The controversy is about man-made, or anthropogenic GW. There is no doubt about the slow current warming: just as there is no doubt about the Mediaeval warm period. Both were/are caused by the Milankovitch cycle and solar variability.
18 posted on 03/01/2007 8:58:25 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: bmwcyle

Bad link - can't see the pic.


19 posted on 03/01/2007 9:00:43 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: AT7Saluki
"greenhouse gases into the atmosphere"

According to NASA's head climatologist, the greenhouse gases actually "keep the earth cooler."

Without the greenhouse gases, the temp on the plant would average 145 degree F.
20 posted on 03/01/2007 9:00:51 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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