you already pay for them now... they are included in the price of everything you buy.
Posted on 03/08/2007 2:08:18 PM PST by Cagey
SAN FRANCISCO -- Paper or plastic won't mean the same for shoppers in San Francisco if some city supervisors get their way.
A proposal up for consideration next week would prohibit large grocers from using regular plastic bags. Supporters of the ban say the bags eat up fossil fuels, litter the streets and choke wildlife.
The measure would require grocery stores to offer only bags made of recyclable paper, plastic that can be turned into compost, or sturdy cloth or plastic that can be reused.
The proposed ban has the support of San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. But it's opposed by the California Grocers Association as potentially doing more damage to the environment.
President Peter Larkin said confused consumers would wind up mixing biodegradable bags with regular plastic bags in recycling bins, thereby contaminating recycled plastic.
i just got back from the grocery store tonight
and i always take my own canvas bags. i hate
all that plastic bag mess. i've had these bags
for about 15 yrs now. they are stronger, they
wash up easily and i tell the bagger to load
'em up! they're much stronger than anything at
the grocery store.
A few years back I had a cedar tree in a fence row I needed to trim. In doing so I found an empty bird's nest with a blue plastic grocery sack neatly woven into the "floor" of the nest. I took the nest down and put it away in the shed. A couple of years later the old cedar was looking really rough and I decided to cut it down. While cutting the boughs to length for disposal I found 2 more bird's nests. They were like the one I had found previously, with grocery sacks neatly woven into the floor of the nest, and one actually had strips of bags cut and woven into the side. I was amazed, but then realized the birds found shopping at the neighborhood Walmart convenient, too.
I use those little bags for everything.
Let's see:
-to wrap chicken bones in and bury deep in the trash can to keep out nosey dogs.
-wrap meat so it doesn't leak after bringing home from the grocery.
-great to put dog poo in/also "scoops" of litter pan stuff.
-use as lining for all small trash cans in the house.
-if going to several different places with items to be delivered, these little bags are great.
And don't buy that they don't decompose. Myself runs a fine and steaming compost pile and if one of these little bags makes it into my pile...it ROTS. Sure, it takes a little longer but ladies and gems...those bags ROT. They're made out of a petroleum product after all, which also comes out of the ground. Or, for those who still don't believe, do you notice the world is not overrun with those little bags?
If after all my uses, I still have a pile of those little bags left, I bundle them up and take them to the grocery to be recycled!
Damn, San Fran....get a grip!
Complex isn't it. With each change in technology that dynamic would change too, even with changes in commodity prices. It's too complex for regulatory government to begin to manage (even if the influence peddlers like it that way).
That's why we need this. I'm the inventor.
you already pay for them now... they are included in the price of everything you buy.
I'm with you. I have a lot of fruit trees in my yard, and every spring, when the winds whip up, I'm constantly pulling those damn things out of the branches.
Glad or Hefty Inc. must be located in Queen Nancy's district, right next to Star-Kist. They're seeing lost sales because people use the shopping bags for trash bags. It's a lobbying effort to eliminate the competition. Foil hat alert!
Well, yesterday he said he was going to make the MUNI free to ride.
"Don't wrap it, bag it!"
Use Trojans™ Dual-Use Grocery Bags! Available at fine stores everywhere in North Beach, the Castro District, and The Tenderloin!
For bagging your goods and the prevention of disease only. Always practice Safe Shopping™ techniques.
Condoms aren't plastic. They're Latex. < / Stupid Liberal mode >
I'd rather go with plastic. I can carry multiple bags in at a time. Plus they're good for bathroom wastebaskets.
Absolutely. They are unsightly and a nuisance. They should be replaced by good old, reliable, brown paper bags. The ones kids could make masks out of and crowns and...we could cover school books with them and even use them as note pads in a pinch. There's a lot to be said for technology but there's more to be said in a lot of cases for the good, plain, old fashioned things. Besides, paper is biodegradable. Plastic sucks!!
The ultimate urban grocery cart.
Keep your perishables cool on the trek back to the Metro-Pad.
Tired?
Sit down and have a cold one.
Say no to paper AND plastic!
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(*optional daisies and tutu skirts offered only in San Francisco and NYC.)
Paper is still better. Always has always will be. My opinion ... you have yours.
I was just kind of joking LOL. Banning plastic bags is just kind of funny when you think about it. Frankly, I liked my paper bags. That was bad because we were using tree by products. At least they were biodegradable.
Not in favor of a ban, but you can about 5 times as much of your groceries into a paper bag as you can in a plastic bag.
No paper, no plastic? What are they supposed do with their groceries? Shove 'em up their... Oh, wait. It's San Francisco.
Here we goooo
What about the trees?
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