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Gun-Shy Liberals - Who cares about the Second Amendment?
National Review Online ^ | March 30, 2007 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 03/30/2007 11:21:52 AM PDT by neverdem







Gun-Shy Liberals
Who cares about the Second Amendment?

By Jonah Goldberg

Considering how badly things have been going for conservatives, right-wingers, Republicans and anyone else whose brain doesn’t explode like one of those guys from the movie Scanners at the thought of another Republican president, it’s worth noting that one of the greatest conservative victories of the last 40 years is quietly unfolding right in front of us. On March 9, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit issued an epochal ruling. The court found that the Second Amendment actually protects the right to bear arms for individuals.

Now, that in and of itself is huge. For decades, the courts, the legal and academic establishments, the press and all right-thinking people everywhere have been arguing that not only is the Second Amendment a chestnut from a bygone age, but that enlightened judges should just go ahead and void the darn thing like a bad parking ticket.

The high-water mark of anti-gun-rights shabbiness was the 2000 release of Arming America by then-Emory University historian Michael Bellesiles. The book purported to prove that gun ownership was never a major part of American society and that America’s gun culture was a useful myth for the gun-nutters eager to make the Second Amendment mean something it doesn’t. The book received lavish praise from the liberal establishment, including a rave review by Gary Wills in The New York Times, and won Columbia University’s prestigious Bancroft Prize.

The only problem was that the whole thing was an elaborate hoax, perpetrated with faked or nonexistent evidence. Intellectually honest liberals had to recant. The Bancroft Prize was revoked. Wills admitted: “I was took. The book is a fraud.”

Of course, there has always been a minority of liberals who’ve shown a willingness to admit, often reluctantly, that the Constitution can approve of something they disapprove of. Liberal journalist Michael Kinsley famously quoted a colleague as saying, “If liberals interpreted the Second Amendment the way they interpret the rest of the Bill of Rights, there would be law professors arguing that gun ownership is mandatory.” And in 1989, Sanford Levinson penned a Yale Law Review article tellingly titled “The Embarrassing Second Amendment.”

Such honesty has proved contagious. As Brookings Institution scholar Benjamin Wittes chronicles in the current edition of The New Republic, various liberal legal scholars have come to grudgingly accept that the Second Amendment’s meaning and intent include the individual right to own a gun. “(T)he amendment achieves its central purpose by assuring that the federal government may not disarm individual citizens without some unusually strong justification,” writes no less than the dean of liberal legal scholars, Laurence Tribe. Tribe had to update his textbook on the Constitution to account for the growing consensus that — horror! — Americans do have a constitutional right to own a gun. It’s not an absolute right, of course. But no right is.

Now, you might think this is what I have in mind when I say that the Court of Appeals ruling was an epochal victory for conservatives. But it’s not.

No, the real victory is that liberals are starting to accept the fact that the constitution has a meaning separate and distinct from what the most pliant liberal judge wants it to mean. Therefore, writes Wittes, “perhaps it’s time for gun-control supporters to come to grips with the fact that the (Second Amendment) actually means something ... For which reason, I hereby advance a modest proposal: Let’s repeal the damn thing.” Wittes isn’t alone. A number of left-wing commentators have picked up the idea as well.

Personally, I would oppose repeal, and I have problems with many liberal arguments against the Second Amendment. But that liberals are willing to play by the rules is an enormous, monumental victory that transcends the particulars of the gun-control debate.

According to the so-called “living Constitution” championed by liberals from Woodrow Wilson to Al Gore and Bill Clinton, amendments are a waste of time since enlightened jurists can simply “breathe new life” into the meaning of the Constitution. No more, if Wittes and Co. have their way. Now, we’ll have to have an argument.

“It’s true that repealing the Second Amendment is politically impossible right now,” Wittes concedes. “That doesn’t bother me. It should be hard to take away a constitutional right.”

Yes, it should. It should also be hard to mint a new one. And, as conservatives have argued for decades, in both cases the ideal method is democratic debate and legislative deliberation, not judicial whim.

So buck up, my conservative brethren. It’s not all bad news these days.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
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Here's Parker v. Washington D.C. in HTML, courtesy of zeugma.
1 posted on 03/30/2007 11:21:53 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: zeugma
BANG!
2 posted on 03/30/2007 11:23:14 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


3 posted on 03/30/2007 11:25:40 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: neverdem
Therefore, writes Wittes, “perhaps it’s time for gun-control supporters to come to grips with the fact that the (Second Amendment) actually means something ... For which reason, I hereby advance a modest proposal: Let’s repeal the damn thing.” Wittes isn’t alone. A number of left-wing commentators have picked up the idea as well.

Exactly why the amendment exists in the first place. If Witless and his liberal co-horts even make an attempt at this, they should face armed resistance.

4 posted on 03/30/2007 11:27:39 AM PDT by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-troe"...in 2008.)
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To: neverdem

and who would seize our guns??schumer,nadler,boxer,feinstein,kennedy,kerry & co.-haha-that would be too good to hope for :))


5 posted on 03/30/2007 11:32:01 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: pcottraux

If a big fan of Goldberg's video segment with Peter Beinhart, which can be viewed over the The New Republic's website and NRO as well, the do a segment entitled "Whats your Problem"-a refreshing change of pace from MSNBC,CNN,FOX News scream your heads off over each other fake debate crap. Those two have real interesting discussions on a wide rang of subjects. Check it out if your a Goldberg fan.


6 posted on 03/30/2007 11:32:15 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

"The high-water mark of anti-gun-rights shabbiness was the 2000 release of Arming America by then-Emory University historian Michael Bellesiles. The book purported to prove that gun ownership was never a major part of American society and that America’s gun culture was a useful myth for the gun-nutters eager to make the Second Amendment mean something it doesn’t. The book received lavish praise from the liberal establishment, including a rave review by Gary Wills in The New York Times, and won Columbia University’s prestigious Bancroft Prize."


Apparently the people at Columbia and the NY Times are ignorant of American history, particularly the Revolutionary War. Freedom from tyranny (King George III's abuses and usurpations) was the motivation for the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The first amendment is about freedom of speech, petition, assembly and the press. The second amendment about the Right of the People to Keep and Bear arms - "shall not be infringed". The liberal lunatics want to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights will be honored. The founders knew that armed citizens were necessary to defeat the British, and that armed citizens would be the ultimate source of protection from dictators and tyrants (such as Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro and Kim Jong Il) in the future.

The Second Amendment says the PEOPLE have the right to KEEP and BEAR arms. This language is so straightforward and easy to understand, yet those who would undermine our freedom attempt to distort its meaning.


7 posted on 03/30/2007 11:43:53 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: steamroller
and who would seize our guns??schumer,nadler,boxer,feinstein,kennedy,kerry & co.-haha-that would be too good to hope for :))

Your friendly local police backed up by the federal gun gestapo ala New Orleans

8 posted on 03/30/2007 11:47:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: neverdem; All

"Gun control" means hitting your target with each and every round & with breath control!


9 posted on 03/30/2007 11:49:49 AM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: from occupied ga
and who would seize our guns??schumer,nadler,boxer,feinstein,kennedy,kerry & co.-haha-that would be too good to hope for :))

Your friendly local police backed up by the federal gun gestapo ala New Orleans

Right up to the point that they meet the half-million youngsters back from Iraq and Afghanistan. Who've been receiving on-the-job training about urban combat and Improvised Explosives for the last 3½ years.

Try telling them they don't have any rights any more, and it'll get real messy real quick.

10 posted on 03/30/2007 12:01:46 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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Right up to the point that they meet the half-million youngsters back from Iraq and Afghanistan

Optimist. I was thinking that it would have been right up to the point where they met a few old f@rts of my generation who got back from Viet Nam 38 years ago.

You are one of the more well informed who post here, and I'm sure you remember the marine officer quiz of several years ago when they were asked if they would participate in disarming civilians.

11 posted on 03/30/2007 12:07:28 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: neverdem
IMO Goldberg is living in a dream world here.

Serious gun-grabbing socialists know precisely what they're going to do.

12 posted on 03/30/2007 12:08:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: neverdem
'Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges!'


13 posted on 03/30/2007 12:18:17 PM PDT by UnklGene
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To: Dick Bachert

bttt


14 posted on 03/30/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by aberaussie (Ignorance has a cost.)
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To: from occupied ga
If I recall, there was a Navy psychologist who was writing his Doctorate thesis, and, like all liberals who like to get freebies, figured that the Marines on base at MCB 29 Palms were put there for his personal research.

He passed around a questionnaire asking if, given an official order from the CinC, they would send troops out, house to house, IN CONUS, to confiscate all guns. The officers said yes, they would, since they were largely Liberal educated. The Enlisted men said no, they wouldn't.

The Brady Bunch started bragging about how the Marines would take all the guns, as soon as Clinton passed the word, and 8th & Eye was asking what the Eff was going on at 29 Palms, denying that the USMC could confiscate ANYTHING, due to the Posse Comitatus laws. The MSM quickly buried it, but it was one of the first times the Net started questioning the Media.

15 posted on 03/30/2007 12:46:26 PM PDT by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for the link. Let them try in Darfur.


16 posted on 03/30/2007 1:29:30 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: from occupied ga
Optimist. I was thinking that it would have been right up to the point where they met a few old f@rts of my generation who got back from Viet Nam 38 years ago.

Oh there'd be quite enough of us old Vietnam-era f@rts in there to be sure, plus those who've seen how *well* such disarmament has worked in Bosnia and Panama. And elsewhere, here and there, in between.

You are one of the more well informed who post here, and I'm sure you remember the marine officer quiz of several years ago when they were asked if they would participate in disarming civilians.

Indeed I do; in and around Jan 1994, to include Question # 46 "I Would Fire Upon U.S. Citizens..." Only around a quarter of the Marines so interviewed said that they would do so.

And I also remember some of the responses they got when the survey was discussed by Special Forces personnel at Ft Bragg, whose De Oppresso Liber motto approximately translates to Free the Oppressed. The Powers That Be found out just how seriously most of them take that motto. And figured they were better off keeping such surveys among Marines and Navy personnel.


17 posted on 03/30/2007 1:45:44 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: jonascord
If I recall, there was a Navy psychologist who was writing his Doctorate thesis, and, like all liberals who like to get freebies, figured that the Marines on base at MCB 29 Palms were put there for his personal research.

Pretty close. The questionaires were devised by a Lt. Cdr. Guy Cunningham, USN as part of the requirements for his Masters Degree program at the Naval Postgraduate School, Montery, California; see the link in my post #17 above for a full copy of the survey questions.

But it did not help still the resulting furore that on May 3, 1994, President Clinton signed a Presidential Decision Directive establishing "U.S. Policy on Reforming Multilateral Peace Operations". For an overview of the unclassified portions of PDD 25 go to the PDD 25 Summary *here*.

18 posted on 03/30/2007 1:56:41 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: neverdem
The only places where a treaty would have any effect are nations under the rule of law, like here.

I'm writing an article on the origins of treaty law in America as regards property rights and gun rights. It's easier to get one of these monstrosities ratified than is commonly understood. Almost no one understands how powerful treaty law really is. Understanding the history is a powerful motivator.

19 posted on 03/30/2007 1:57:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: archy; neverdem
President Clinton signed a Presidential Decision Directive establishing "U.S. Policy on Reforming Multilateral Peace Operations".

And then there's Title X, Section 333:

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 15 > § 333

§ 333. Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

20 posted on 03/30/2007 2:05:35 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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