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VOLCANIC EMISSIONS IGNORED BY GLOBALIST'S WARMING CAMP

Posted on 04/01/2007 6:03:40 PM PDT by John Fitzgerald

According to the US Geological Survey and other sources, one volcano can spew out more CO2 and SO2 in a matter of days than the entire city of New York can produce in one year. There are many dozens of active volcanos around the world today. Does 'AlGore' and his group of hand picked, grant-seeking, scientists factor in volcanic emissions into their half baked equations about 'man made' global warming? And how do they distinguish how much co2 and so2 is produced naturally from how much is man made? If co2 is heavier than oxygen and nitrogen, the main components in our air, how is it that it stays above us to act as a greenhouse gas in the first place??

'Globalist Warming'. Something stinks...and it ain't the volcanos.


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To: kaehurowing
There is a great new DVD produced in Britain that will be available soon on Global Warming. Right now it can be seen on Google, Hot Air, and (I think) UTube.

It's called "The Great Global Warming Swindle" This is the best hour you'll ever spend getting facts to counter the enviro-freek-liberal arguments. An absolutely riveting, compelling documentary.

Nothing short of fantastic with many many credible scientists and authorities!! Wonderful graphics debunking Al Gore and the CO2 GW theory and detail descriptions of sun based GW mechanisms...and history!!

ABC is reportedly thinking of showing it.

21 posted on 04/01/2007 7:03:08 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: kaehurowing
Little do you know how close you are to the "truth" of global warming. All of the CO2 data comes from a single NOAA monitoring station located on the slopes of Mauna Loa on the Island of Hawaii.

Atmospheric CO2 levels are monitored at hundreds of sites worldwide, for example about 60 are "core" sites for the NOAA/ESRL Global Monitoring Division.

22 posted on 04/01/2007 7:03:33 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: palmer

I'm a Global Warming "skeptic" myself - of course the question is what does that mean...

I believe that average worldwide temperatures have indeed warmed recently. The cause may or may not include anthropogenic CO2 - it's POSSIBLE it may be the primary cause, or it may only be a very small part overlaid on natural temperature fluctuations from various causes.

Odds are we'll never know.

We're putting huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, any way you look at it.

I don't believe there's been any increase in tropical cyclone intensity worldwide in the last 20 years.

And I think the most dire of the global warming disaster predictions are wildly inflated.

I just hate seeing incredibly stupid arguments made against "global warming." Bad soldiers in the service of a good king, indeed.


23 posted on 04/01/2007 7:05:06 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: palmer

See my post #21. You'll probably jerk a knee, and not be an idiot!


24 posted on 04/01/2007 7:05:57 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: palmer

See my post #21. You'll probably jerk a knee, and not be an idiot!


25 posted on 04/01/2007 7:05:59 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: Strategerist
Read my post #21. Many factors to consider other than volcanos, CO2 and cow gas in the Global Warming equation. I have a technical background, and this presentation was the most comprehensive and credible look at GW I have seen.

When it hits the "streets" it is sure to cause huge controversy, so, no matter which GW camp your in (manmade vs. natural) you'll want to have seen it.

26 posted on 04/01/2007 7:12:24 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: Strategerist

I'm not looking for a fight - just answers. You seem to know what you are talking about. I posed a question my post #5 above. Do you have an answer?
I have a doctorial degree - altho not in a "hard science" - but I read alot about this. I respectfully seek your response.
Thanks


27 posted on 04/01/2007 7:23:34 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
A point on monitoring ~ there are more than a dozen quite serious radio sonde operations within 25 miles of Washington DC.

In the entire country of Congo there is, at the moment, one such site that works.

There used to be three sites but I think the weather guys got eaten in a revolution or something.

There are other equally large parts of the world that are lightly monitored, if at all, from the surface.

Intermittent measurements can be used as a "proxy" for the missing permanant measurement stations. There are "other methods" than "proxy".

Depending on the "method" and its approximation of reality, a major climatological model is going to report out different futures.

I would imagine a highschool computer class could track down the source of the data used by the models referenced by the United Nations (in its forthcoming "official report") if the UN would simply tell us where each and every data point is located.

Might be some surprises in there.

28 posted on 04/01/2007 7:26:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Screamname

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_EhGG5LWs


29 posted on 04/01/2007 7:28:16 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: John Fitzgerald

Global Gasbags are full of Global Garbage.


30 posted on 04/01/2007 7:31:05 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: uscabjd

Mankind only produes 5% of all carbon emissions. You would need to be a Democrat in search of money and power to believe that we had anything to do with it.


31 posted on 04/01/2007 7:33:07 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: TheLion

Thanks - but I was asking about the carbon cycle and how much carbon is taken out of the atmosphere in the USA . And the answer is........?


32 posted on 04/01/2007 7:35:19 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: Strategerist
"Cmon people, you need to move beyond a half-assed "what I want to believe is true, is true" mode of argument that is devoid of any actual reasearch of anything.

Actually, my position is irrefutable, and it is not that.

I don't see anything to convince me that man's presense is significantly affecting the earth's climate. But...but, if it it is, too damn bad. I simply don't care.

Besides, if we are doing so, so what? Mankind can't alter its course enough to do anything, the only way we are going to stop doing so is mass suicide. And I don't see the volunteers lining up. No one's argument as to whether it exists and what are the causes means jack.

33 posted on 04/01/2007 7:43:14 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: uscabjd

You will have to do some research to come up with that one.


34 posted on 04/01/2007 7:43:20 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: John Fitzgerald

Since mankind only produces 5% of all CO2....global warming is total bull!


35 posted on 04/01/2007 7:46:15 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: palmer
Post 18 says, "man puts out about 7,100 Mt of co2(i.e. about 7 billion tons a year.)" This is about 1/20th his reported volcanic output. On the other hand Post 12 says man puts out 22 billion tons a year. This value is 150 times greater than his reported volcanic output.(If my math is correct this is a huge difference.) Does anyone know who is correct, or are they both wrong. Godspeed,
36 posted on 04/01/2007 7:50:19 PM PDT by thedilg (1)
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To: John Fitzgerald
There are many dozens of active volcanos around the world today.

Only true if you limit yourself to volcanoes being shaped like mount Fuji. If you count all actual volcanoes under the oceans of the world and every small volcano that doesn't rise above 1000 feet, there are thousands of active volcanoes around the world.

37 posted on 04/01/2007 8:23:33 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: uscabjd

try this website:
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/terra/co.htm

Also--I second the advice to watch THE GREAT GLOBAL WARMING SWINDLE" I saw it on YouTube. It's all Maggie Thatcher's fault. who knew?

BTW--biggest source of CO2 is the ocean. It's pretty darn big.


38 posted on 04/01/2007 8:28:29 PM PDT by duvausa
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To: palmer
The CO2 output from Pinatubo was about 42 Mt, and man puts out about 7100 Mt a year. The more important number is that all natural sources release about 150,000 Mt

Is it safe then to say that man's 42 Mt is less than the average deviation of natural input? I am willing to bet that variations in natural input actually dwarf man's total contribution.

39 posted on 04/01/2007 8:28:39 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: John Fitzgerald

It's kind of funny. I am visiting my dad for Passover this week. On the flight in, I was reading the Mechanic's Illustrated book on debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories. I mentioned a few of them to him and he couldn't help but chuckle at the "crackpot theories" (his words) out there.

Not 20 minutes later, we were discussing "Gore-bal Warming", and I was mentioning some of the equally crackpot theories on this issue, and he refused to believe that the Global Warming theories weren't the God's honest truth.

Sheesh!


40 posted on 04/01/2007 8:35:49 PM PDT by ssaftler (Eccentric: A crazy person with lots of money.)
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