Posted on 04/05/2007 5:42:47 PM PDT by Utah Girl
Mitt Romney is riding high this week after his victory in "the first primary," which consists of raising cold, hard cash to compete: more than $20 million in the first quarter, $5 million more than his closest contender, Rudy "Lay off my wife!" Giuliani. John McCain came in a lackluster third with $12.5 million.
Romney's campaign benefited from two distinct donor networks, according to media accounts: Wall Street and Mormons. GOP front-runner Rudy, struggling with one of those weird media freak shows erupting around his wife, Judith (her alleged participation in future Cabinet meetings and former puppy killings), must be a little envious on both counts.
Why is it that all the Dem candidates are still married to their first spouse, while among the current crop of leading GOP contenders, the only guy with just one wife is the Mormon?
Truth is, I don't think this is just an accident. There's something about Mormons the rest of us ought to pay attention to: Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do much better than almost any other faith group at sustaining a marriage culture -- and they do this while participating fully and successfully in modern life. Utah is above the national average in both household income and the proportion of adults who are college graduates.
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What ?
I think the Pope said something like this too.......except he said it about the Catholic church...
Martin Luther declared something very similar.....but you probably know that story.
My observations are....being close to Mormon culture --- but not being a LDS (I belong to my local Methodist Church) is that Mormon Families are at least as functional, happy and healthy as the Evangelical family.....
I have SEEN more than one wife of an Evangelical household breakdown as the facade of a Christian marriage dissolved under scrutiny and charges of hypocrisy, and just plain deceitfulness.
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I don't expect ant category of Christian to be perfect .... but I get pretty damn tired of seeing fingers pointing to the "Biggest Sinners"....when the logs stickin' out of everybodies eyes look pretty big to me.
Finally someone says what I have been thinking through many such discussions. I want people to say why their church is so wonderful without tearing others beliefs down and making a judgment call on what is and is not a cult.
Mitt has the values that we should want in our president!
Catholics practice excommunication, I’ve known other “Christians who would either not do business with you or not hire you, or fire you, if you did not agree with their religious views.
Many were killed in the Inquisitions.
So, what is the difference between a cult and a religion?
I figured I just let this reel itself out!:)
People are going to say what they desire to believe, truth need not apply!
This is so bizarre. I grew up in the RLDS, now called the Community of Christ, or something like that.
THEY EXCOMMUNICATED ME because once I moved out of my parents, married then divorced my husband, who’s father was some sort of priest, I told them to buzz off. I think I have the papers somewhere.
But they were the liberal branch that stayed in Independence, MO after the Mormons went to Utah. And I can tell you that while it was a bit goofy at times, it was pretty innocuous. It was nothing compared to what’s being posted here about the Mormons.
And those socalled “fundamentalist” Mormons really creep me out. They’re all on welfare and I think the Mormon church should use some of its Vaticanesque fortune to help clean up the mess of polygamy.
Still. I think Romney is the best candidate so far period. I really don’t think Hilary or Barak can beat him.
The Mormonism bothers me. But, there it is.
The LDS Church has existed for over 150+ years. In that time there have likely been thousands of comments or talks written about the subjects that we are discussing. You are pulling out a handful of quotes and expecting them to fully explain modern Mormon doctrine without considering the likely hundreds of similar quotes and scriptures that also have to be taken into account to see the complete picture.
On the other hand I provided a link to an official website that describes Mormon doctrine in clear easy to understand terms, based for a modern audience. To put it another way, what I stated is what is being taught by Mormon missionaries to Mormon converts, it is what is being taught in Mormon Sunday School. In other words, this is what Mormons really believe about the resurrection and the nature of the husband/wife relationship in heaven.
Look at it this way, consider your faith of choice, if one were to cherry pick quotes from past church leaders it would be possible to present a false notion of what that church believes today on quite a few subjects (Consider Catholics and Galileo for instance).
Oh please, spare us . He walks the walk, he's the real deal . He is a true role model on many fronts , there is no disputing that . I'm a pro-life agnostic, and have no problems with Mitt . He is the last person you have to worry about pushing his beliefs on anyone . In fact , I don't know of any president that has, as of yet . Name one ... I will vigorously defend Mitt against attacks on his faith . It's pure B.S., and a tactic that people use when they are out of psuedo-coherent arguments ....
1. LDS doctrine teaches ALL will be resurrected.
2. LDS doctrine teaches that the level of exaltation one achieves depends on their own personal worthiness, not because of the actions or choices of someone else, including their spouse.
He claims that God appeared to him and handed him the Mormon scriptures on Golden Tablets which suddenly disappeared when he was done translating the Ancient Greek (a language with which he was not acquainted).
The finished book, called The Book of Mormon, is very much like another book published at that time.
God used to be like us but He was really good so He got his own planet and faithful Mormons will be Gods on their own planets too. Polytheistic, not in Christian scripture.
Satan and Jesus are brothers. (Not in Christian scripture). Jesus will come back physically and reign over America.
The other Mormon books , 'The Pearl of Great Price' and 'Doctrine and Covenants' contain archaeological claims which are easily refuted. The Christian Bible is supported by modern archeology.
Mormonism has a process theology, that is, it's scripture may be changed at any time by the current "Prophet" (head of the church). Christianity may not be changed by any man.
God 'revealed' to Joseph Smith that he should take many wives, typical of cult leaders - David Koresh and Jim Jones, etc). You must learn the secret handshake and signs to be admitted to Heaven (stolen from Freemasonry, Joseph Smith was a Mason).
The list goes on and on, I could send you to a website if you really want to know more.
Well, The GOP leaderhsip has turned their backs on conservatives, so why not?
If someone wanted to know who all the Mormons were of FR it wouldn't take them too long on threads like this to figure it out, which does lead me to a political question:
I can understand the Mormons coming to the defense of their doctrine when it is under attack on these threads. You saw the same thing with Catholics at times, as well as proponents of other doctrines being attacked.
But why does there seem to be almost monolithic support of Romney among the Mormon community on FR?
I can understand wanting one of your own in the White House (I'm very glad Carter finally left the Southern Baptist Convention - it was embarrassing). But Romney does seem to have an iffy track record on being a conservative. Being a popular Massachusetts governor is not a badge of honor here.
If Romney claimed to be a Methodist I think he would be hard pressed to find nearly as vigorous a defense on the web.
I will automatically cede the point that there is very little debate on his actual record, and it takes some sifting.
I, for one, am not a Romney supporter. It was funny to say the other day. A friend and I were IMing when I mentioned that I don't care much for Romney. He is not LDS. He had to ask why I did not like Romney, as he didn't think he seemed like a decent candidate.
The snazzy underwear?
You know very little about his personal life. Is he an honest person? Not politically, we know that he does what is politically expedient. Has he been faithful to his wife? I don’t know that and you don’t either.
We know very little about the man, so don’t be so quick to say that he is morally superior to anyone.
“As you can see, I’ve been called “ignorant”, a “liar”, and a “bigot”, when all I’ve done is point out (with quotes from LDS church teachings) some higher-degree Mormon theology.”
I don’t believe I’ve been party to such insults, I do however stand by my statement that you are incorrect in your understanding of Mormon doctrine.
If you want to know what the LDS Church believes then the best thing to do is to ask them. Here are some good official sources:
www.lds.org
www.mormon.org
Scripture! If something is not scriptural, e.g. believing that Jesus and Satan are brothers, then it is another gospel. Do you remember what Paul said about preachers of another gospel? Read Gal. 1:8-9.
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