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1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect.. right to believe in God ..or not to believe in God."
The Brody File ^ | April 12, 2007 | David Brody thebrodyfile@gmail.com

Posted on 04/12/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God."

The Brody File has dug up a Rudy quote from the past that makes for an interesting discussion. In a 1994 New York Times article, Rudy said this:

"As the Mayor of New York City, I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God -- because I realize that my right to practice my religion depends completely on my commitment to defend someone else's right to practice theirs, or to practice no religion at all."

The article goes on to mention his views on Catholicism.

"Mr. Giuliani, who as a young man once considered joining the priesthood, noted that many Catholics today "feel that in some intellectual or quasi-intellectual circles, they are demeaned." He said he had also heard Catholics say that "Catholic-bashing has become part of the dogma of what they regard as the politically correct." And he said: "Indeed, I do detect among some who accept the most recent intellectual fads a disdain for those who share in the more orthodox faiths, whether Christian or Jewish or Muslim. In my humble opinion -- and this is meant as an observation, not a challenge -- that disdain emerges from an almost subconscious conclusion that to believe in God too fervently betrays a certain intellectual infirmity." He compared such a view with the "difficult time that some believers have in drawing the line between belief in dogma and respect for those who disagree." He called for believers and unbelievers alike to avoid "the arrogance of having no doubts."

Read the rest of the article here. It's interesting to hear Rudy talk about his faith. Clearly, there is a deeper story there. It makes me wonder what his upbringing was like and how his Catholic faith helped shaped who he is today. It's something worth exploring. I interview Giuliani next week. Maybe I'll pursue this with him. Got questions for him? Email them to me.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; giuliani; politics; religion
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; dirtboy
Who made you the dictator of what can be discussed?

I took him to mean he thought you were implying there was some connection between the statement we were discussing and the statement you asked about.

I took him that way because I thought you implied the same thing.

Maybe I'm missing something but, I see little justification for the tone of your response.

61 posted on 04/12/2007 9:08:00 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: areafiftyone

How can someone who calls himself a Catholic have no problem with abortion?


62 posted on 04/12/2007 9:08:31 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I don’t consider abortion an issue for the presidency. That has always been the case with me.


63 posted on 04/12/2007 9:09:24 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone; dmw; narses; Spiff; wagglebee; dirtboy
What is your obsession with NARAL???

They're one of the most prominent Pro-Abortion organizations in the United States. If they support someone, then that should raise eyebrows. If their support for someone is 100%, that should raise some warning flags.

You guys seem to know alot about them.

Know thine enemy.

64 posted on 04/12/2007 9:10:21 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: msnimje
making fun of this woman's death

ChocolateFace was obviously NOT making fun of Schiavo's death, but instead imitating (and thus, making fun of) posters like yourself, whose Rudy Derangement Syndrome leads you all to accuse Giuliani of virtually everything and anything.

65 posted on 04/12/2007 9:10:24 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: areafiftyone

Shhhhhh.... I have a feeling that a lot of these people would gladly give up the War against terrorists, allowing them to take over, if it mean Abortion would be completely and totally outlawed. And women put back “in their place” and...

Sigh.


66 posted on 04/12/2007 9:11:32 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: dmz

You’re right but there are freepers who just don’t want to let the facts get in the way of their good storyline. LOL


67 posted on 04/12/2007 9:12:18 AM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

IBTZ.


68 posted on 04/12/2007 9:12:57 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Martin Luther King Jr. would be so proud of these people today huh?" -- FReeper Just sayin)
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To: areafiftyone; dirtboy; pissant

One’s stance on abortion can be telling about a few things.

Consider: Rudy thinks poor women have a Constitutional right to taxpayer-funded abortion.

From that one statement, we can deduce:

1) His perception of Constitutional rights is very out of wack.

2) He undermines his own “fiscal conservative” label by advocating tax-payer funded abortion.

3) He has an “interesting” code of ethics, to say the least.


69 posted on 04/12/2007 9:13:14 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: M. Thatcher

Maybe we need an RDS Telethon. If Jerry Lewis ain’t busy, maybe he’d host it. ;)


70 posted on 04/12/2007 9:13:14 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It’s becoming rather comical how hysterical the Rudy Rooters get over straightforward FACTS.

Now, I understand it must get very frustrating to promote a hard-core liberal on a conservative forum, but did they really expect conservatives to just roll-over?


71 posted on 04/12/2007 9:13:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

Why not go for the best of both worlds? (points to tagline)

Pro-war against terrorists, and Pro-Life. Among other things.


72 posted on 04/12/2007 9:15:09 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; areafiftyone; dirtboy; pissant
He undermines his own “fiscal conservative” label by advocating tax-payer funded abortion.

All "fiscal conservative" really means is that you would prefer to not run a deficit, it has nothing to do with curtailing spending. I have yet to see Rudy out there campaigning for a tax cut.

73 posted on 04/12/2007 9:15:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: StAnDeliver
IBTZ

Let me guess - You hit "Abuse" and typed in "Unrepentent Rudy Supporter"?

74 posted on 04/12/2007 9:15:49 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

4) he’s a liberal....which leads to many more unsavory deducing


75 posted on 04/12/2007 9:16:30 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

many = much


76 posted on 04/12/2007 9:16:52 AM PDT by pissant
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To: areafiftyone
Your Outlook Reminder
Your Starvation Nation meeting today at the
Greater China "All-You-Can-Eat" Buffet 5pm, meeting begins 6pm.
Democrat Socialists of America guest of honor will speak.

77 posted on 04/12/2007 9:17:01 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Martin Luther King Jr. would be so proud of these people today huh?" -- FReeper Just sayin)
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To: Mr. Brightside
PLEASE READ IT CORRECTLY

"Indeed, I do detect among some who accept the most recent intellectual fads a disdain for those who share in the more orthodox faiths, whether Christian or Jewish or Muslim. In my humble opinion -- and this is meant as an observation, not a challenge -- that disdain emerges from an almost subconscious conclusion that to believe in God too fervently betrays a certain intellectual infirmity."

78 posted on 04/12/2007 9:17:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

That would be ideal. However, since, unfortunately legalized abortion is the law of the land, and not something a president can just do away with, the abortion fight is more apporpriate for the courts. So, I’m picking my battle - and my top priority right now is the survival of this nation.

Making abortion illegal is all fine and good, but totally useless if we have no country left.

But that’s just this man’s opinion.


79 posted on 04/12/2007 9:18:15 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Corrected. Thank you.


80 posted on 04/12/2007 9:20:45 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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