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News from the Long War, Thread 4
Various | 4/15/07 | Knitting a Conundrum and Others

Posted on 04/15/2007 6:02:06 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum

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Thread 4



Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation has fought a global war against violent extremists who use terrorism as their weapon of choice, and who seek to destroy our free way of life. Our enemies seek weapons of mass destruction and, if they are successful, will likely attempt to use them in their conflict with free people everywhere. Currently, the struggle is centered in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we will need to be prepared and arranged to successfully defend our nation and its interests around the globe for years to come. DOD

Our enemies include all the Muslims who dream of knocking Western Civilization off its perch atop humanity’s dung heap. Islam is fractured into any number of sects, tribes and ethnic groups, but the dream of destroying us cuts across all the fault lines. Islamic terrorists are merely the tip of a very large spear.

J. Peter Mulhern, the American Thinker, September 18

The determination behind that fight is real, the hatred is real, and the excuses for doing this are very real in the minds of those who have decided to walk that path. We can respond in two ways: Try to ignore or negotiate with people who do not want to negotiate in good faith, because what they want is our destruction, or to stand up against the darkness of those who see all of us, our way of life, our culture and our aspirations as something worth eliminating.

Either: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Or: "With vigilance, determination, courage, we will defeat the enemies of freedom, and we will leave behind a more peaceful world for our children and our grandchildren." GW Bush.

Here's where I will post news and info about the Long War. Let me know if you're interested.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; longwar; mohammedanism; wot
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Chocolates are my killer - though I love them, they can make me un"uncomfortable" for days.

I put uncomfortable in quotes because when I'm sick, my Doc. asks me why am I uncomfortable.

I could be dieing and he refers to it as uncomfortable. lol

3,701 posted on 06/06/2007 2:05:37 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
lol

The only thing I do before coffee is turn on the laptop - its all I'm capable of :)

3,702 posted on 06/06/2007 2:07:40 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

8 mortar shells land near Erez crossing, no injuries
(11:43 , 06.06.07)
High Court reduces sentence of Nazareth church arsonist
(11:25 , 06.06.07)
Lebanese troops seize Hezbollah weapons truck in eastern Lebanon
(11:09 , 06.06.07)
Lebanese troops dismantle bomb near southern city
(10:54 , 06.06.07)
Iran evacuates hundreds from southeastern port as cyclone approaches
(10:15 , 06.06.07)
Small bomb defused in south Lebanon
(09:46 , 06.06.07)
Olmert says Israel ready to discuss Arab peace plan, but won’t accept ultimatums
(08:47 , 06.06.07)
Palestinians hurl explosive device at IDF force in Jenin; no injuries
(08:03 , 06.06.07)
Palestinians try to wrestle gun away from officer in Hebron
(07:45 , 06.06.07)
IDF: Air Force kills gunman in Gaza
(07:37 , 06.06.07)
Bomb in Colombian government building hurts two
(06:51 , 06.06.07)
Australia, Japan hold first ever defense, foreign ministerial level talks
(04:58 , 06.06.07)
Medics: Israeli soldiers kill Palestinian in raid
(03:28 , 06.06.07)
Iran holds three Finnish anglers in Gulf
(01:38 , 06.06.07)
Islamic Jihad claims rockets
(00:31 , 06.06.07)
2 Qassams fired at Israel
(00:19 , 06.06.07)
UK deputy PM suffering from pneumonia, office says
(23:43 , 06.05.07)
Molotov hurled at Kiryat Shmona police station; no injuries
(23:00 , 06.05.07)
‘US plan for missile interceptor system in Europe – a foolish game’
(22:50 , 06.05.07)
Kenya police kill 22 sect suspects
(22:14 , 06.05.07)
Explosive device, Molotov thrown at IDF force near Jenin, no injuries reported
(21:57 , 06.05.07)
Bush arrives in Germany for G8 Summit
(21:52 , 06.05.07)
19 killed in suicide bomber strike in market near Fallujah
(21:37 , 06.05.07)
Bush meets Kosovo leader on independence bid
(21:36 , 06.05.07)
‘Iran using psychological warfare in attempt to get nuclear weapons’
(21:26 , 06.05.07)
Iraqi parliament demands say in extension of US-led forces mandate
(21:13 , 06.05.07)
Israeli car stoned near Ramallah, no injuries reported
(20:54 , 06.05.07)
Reporters Without Borders condemns Chavez’s push for media ‘hegemony’
(20:20 , 06.05.07)
Suspect in alleged NY airport plot surrenders in Trinidad
(20:00 , 06.05.07)
UN Chief remembers victims of 1967 Middle East War
(19:50 , 06.05.07)
Ethics Committee postpones hearing regarding donations raised by Peres
(19:37 , 06.05.07)
Ex-Cheney aide sentenced to 30 months in leak case
(19:02 , 06.05.07)
MK Khenin: Israel in a race against time
(18:53 , 06.05.07)
Uganda, Zambia set out Africa’s priorities to G8
(18:21 , 06.05.07)
Putin donates month’s salary to Jewish museum
(17:51 , 06.05.07)
Qassam lands near Sderot
(17:36 , 06.05.07)
Mubarak, Olmert discuss situation in region
(17:30 , 06.05.07)
Bush says Russia should not fear from missile defense shield
(17:27 , 06.05.07)
Mass grave containing bodies of Jews killed by Nazis found in Ukraine
(17:24 , 06.05.07)
Kesset discusses writing ethics code for MKs
(17:18 , 06.05.07)
State Prosecutor opposes parole of treason convict
(17:04 , 06.05.07)
Shin Bet arrests Palestinian for throwing stones
(16:54 , 06.05.07)
German foreign minister holds talks with Iranian nuclear negotiator
(16:42 , 06.05.07)
Palestinians stone Israeli buses near Ramallah
(16:17 , 06.05.07)
Red alert sounded north of Gaza
(16:12 , 06.05.07)
Dollar up by 0.025 percent, exchange rate set at NIS 4.063
(15:42 , 06.05.07)
Saudi Arabia arrests 3 al-Qaeda members
(15:33 , 06.05.07)
IDF Intelligence: Iran willing to pay price for sanctions
(15:31 , 06.05.07)
Peretz says no indication that Syria wants war
(15:09 , 06.05.07)
Fatah al-Islam mastermind escapes from Lebanon to Syria
(14:55 , 06.05.07)


3,703 posted on 06/06/2007 2:08:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

” Iran holds three Finnish anglers in Gulf
(01:38 , 06.06.07) “

Finnish??

FINNISH??????????

Ahmanutjob is trying to collect the “complete set” of hostages......


3,704 posted on 06/06/2007 2:13:56 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

” Fatah al-Islam mastermind escapes from Lebanon to Syria
(14:55 , 06.05.07) “

‘Fight to the last man’, indeed.......


3,705 posted on 06/06/2007 2:16:34 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

I make gallstones...the joy I feel as they pass down and through my system knows no bounds (not!)


3,706 posted on 06/06/2007 2:17:23 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Uncle Ike

Hmmmmmmmmmm......

hree Finns detained by Iran while fishing in Gulf
Reuters by way of The Scotsman ^ | 06JUN07 | Lin Noueihed

Posted on 06/06/2007 4:25:19 AM CDT by familyop

DUBAI (Reuters) - Three Finnish men working for a mobile phone company in Dubai have been detained by Iran while fishing near a disputed island in the Gulf, the Finnish embassy said on Wednesday.

The three had apparently drifted into Iranian-controlled waters accidentally while on an angling trip from the United Arab Emirates, said Esa Hurtig, charge d’affaires at the Finnish embassy in Abu Dhabi.

Mobile telecoms equipment firm Nokia Siemens Networks told Reuters the three men worked for it in the trade and tourism hub of Dubai.

“There are three Finnish citizens who were fishing and strayed into an off-limits area near Abu Musa island. This is a sensitive area and it happens,” Hurtig said.

“They were detained by the Iranians. We are trying to resolve this issue. I think this will be resolved.” The three were detained on Saturday.

Earlier this year, Iran released a German and a Frenchman who had been held for more than a year after being picked up near Abu Musa while on a fishing trip from Dubai. The pair had been convicted of illegally entering Iranian waters.

“We have been talking to the government of Finland, who have been reaching out to their Iranian counterparts,” Nokia Siemens Networks spokesman Barry French said.

The United Arab Emirates and Iran have full diplomatic ties and strong trade links, and are embroiled in a three-decade dispute over three strategic islands in the Gulf, through which a third of the world’s sea-borne crude oil passes.

SEEKING EARLY RELEASE

“Iranian authorities have told us that they are in good condition, but we have not been able to contact them directly,” Finish Foreign Ministry official Pasi Tuominen told Reuters.

Finnish ambassador to Iran, Heikki Puurunen, said the embassy was seeking a meeting with Iranian officials on Wednesday. So far, he told Reuters, contacts with Iranian officials had been only by telephone because of a national holiday on Monday and Tuesday.

“We don’t know where they are (being held),” he said.

Two Swedish men, convicted and accused of espionage after being arrested in 2006 taking photographs of “sensitive military sites” on another Iranian island in the Gulf, were freed in April in what Tehran said was an “act of clemency”.

Iranian Revolutionary Guards also detained 15 British military personnel aboard two small boats in the northern Gulf in March, triggering a diplomatic storm.

Britain denied the sailors had strayed into Iranian waters. They were freed after 13 days.

The UAE released 12 Iranian sailors last month detained in an area north of Abu Musa, one of the three disputed islands which the UAE claims and Iran controls.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845663/posts
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The tree of appeasement keeps bearing fruit......


3,707 posted on 06/06/2007 2:28:31 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike

When vying for world domination, one must have a complete set of chessmen.


3,708 posted on 06/06/2007 2:51:16 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Of course he is using hostages to determine a nations weakness of strength.


3,709 posted on 06/06/2007 2:56:37 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

It doesn’t address this specific incident, but here’s a think-piece that’s pretty much on-point....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845665/posts

There is simply no negotiating with Iran
Laurel Leader-Call ^ | 05JUN07 | Kathryn Lopez

Posted on 06/06/2007 4:45:31 AM CDT by familyop

It’s not 1979, and we’re not watching it every night on television. But Iran has taken hostages again. Does anyone care? The sounds of near silence out of Washington suggest, “not as much as we should.”

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But we’re in diplomatic mode anyway. A diplomatic mode that — with the names Parnaz Azima, Haleh Esfandiari, Ali Shakeri, Tajbakhsh and Robert Levinson on our minds — should have all Americans angry, nervous, and praying that the Bush administration is working on something good they’re keeping close to the vest. Praying that they are as skeptical of Iran as they should be. Praying that they are willing to put in place a debilitating sanctions policy and send clear signals of support to the good men and women of Iran who want another kind of life there, free of the terrorists who run the country.

George W. Bush has had his good moments of leadership on Iran. A big believer in the yearning of all men and women for democracy, he’s sent signs to the democracy activists and dissidents in Iran, some of them being held in the same Evin Prison some of our American compatriots are in right now. But, as far as we know, they are not getting the help they need from us, the West. The State Department presumably won’t be as outraged as it should be by the abduction of American citizens because they care about “engaging” those who would rather talk about “Death to America.” Something’s got to give. And it better be us making them do the giving, one way or another.
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Bears repeating...

” The State Department presumably won’t be as outraged as it should be by the abduction of American citizens because they care about “engaging” those who would rather talk about “Death to America.” “


3,710 posted on 06/06/2007 2:58:20 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike
The only way to deal with Iran is to tell Ahmanutjob;

"If you kidnap an American, we will kidnap 1000 Iranians. If you kill an American, we will kill 1000 Iranians. If you kill 1000 Americans, well destroy Iran."

But, there are no stones in State any more.

3,711 posted on 06/06/2007 3:12:41 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

” The only way to deal with Iran is to tell Ahmanutjob; “

Telling Ahmanutjob *anything* is a proven non-starter.

We’ve sunk ourselves so far into the diplomatic morass that the only viable ‘message’ we can send is American Bombers in his sky, and American Tanks on his ground.

The fight is inevitable - at least, if you’re not willing to accept ignominous defeat - and the longer it’s delayed, the harder it will be.


3,712 posted on 06/06/2007 3:28:12 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Ya I think they are every where now :-(


3,713 posted on 06/06/2007 5:59:00 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Uncle Ike

Well, I did get back to sleep! Back awake.

Qassam lands in western Negev
(17:39 , 06.06.07)
Ayalon undecided on staying in Olmert gov’t, Pines-Paz says
(17:26 , 06.06.07)
Barak says Olmert must resign before publication of final Winograd report
(17:18 , 06.06.07)
Police injured in clashes with protesters at G8
(17:15 , 06.06.07)
Olmert, Blair discuss future Palestinian negotiations
(16:59 , 06.06.07)
Barak’s aides say he will clarify position on Olmert government
(16:38 , 06.06.07)
Over 600 Palestinians killed in internal clashes since 2006
(16:32 , 06.06.07)
Fatah member arrested near Jenin involved in stabbing attack
(16:26 , 06.06.07)
Dollar up by 0.861 percent, exchange rate set at NIS 4.098
(16:09 , 06.06.07)
2 Qassams land near Sderot, no injuries
(15:52 , 06.06.07)
Knesset will expel members who undermine Israel’s existence
(15:44 , 06.06.07)
3 mortar shells land near Nahal Oz, no injuries
(15:32 , 06.06.07)
Pines to endorse Barak
(15:26 , 06.06.07)
Open House: Banning pride parade – dangerous
(15:21 , 06.06.07)
African refugees abandoned outside IDF base
(14:55 , 06.06.07)
Quartet to host Israeli, Palestinian leaders in late June
(14:46 , 06.06.07)
Knesset to ban pride parade in Jerusalem
(14:44 , 06.06.07)
Bush says Russia won’t attack Europe despite rhetoric
(14:26 , 06.06.07)
IDF arrests wanted Fatah member near Jenin
(14:06 , 06.06.07)


3,714 posted on 06/06/2007 8:13:42 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Bahbah

Ahhh - here you guys are.


3,715 posted on 06/06/2007 3:57:03 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

There is really alot going on, Workerbee, but I have been watching the Senate today trying to destroy the country from within.


3,716 posted on 06/06/2007 4:06:47 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

ohhhh. How is that working out for them? Are we winning or are they?


3,717 posted on 06/06/2007 4:10:10 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: markman46

Most folks in the Gubment seem to be in the same “class”...


3,718 posted on 06/06/2007 5:42:50 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

you get that feeling too eh?.. maybe we can sick Harley on em


3,719 posted on 06/06/2007 6:05:23 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

NoNoNo,,,Harley is “NOT” allowed to put things like that in his mouth !!!
Bad enough he licks his BUTT !! LOL;0)


3,720 posted on 06/06/2007 6:08:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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