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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: tcrlaf

re: Wolf said he was from a “Well-Known Middle-Eastern Family”...

You’re kidding right?


2,462 posted on 04/16/2007 3:04:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: bray

I agree with you. At this point I don’t see how the University or the police can be blamed, but only the killer.


2,463 posted on 04/16/2007 3:05:12 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: txroadkill
Now I'm sure that the original framers never imagined that 230 years later that someone would walk onto a college campus and use a hand gun he probably bought legally and kill almost 50 people, but I promise you they would apply the same solution, "arm the students".

I will say "ditto". Just think...if some of these students/teachers had been armed themselves, the death toll would not be at 33 and possibly rising.

2,465 posted on 04/16/2007 3:05:47 PM PDT by scan58
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To: longtermmemmory

that is a very common asian name.


2,466 posted on 04/16/2007 3:05:59 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: AliVeritas

I think he was talking about the Arab kid who shot the cell phone video.


2,467 posted on 04/16/2007 3:06:25 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Dante3

Any idiot would have had armed personel at each and every building on campus as soon as it was realized that the perp got away after the first two murdered bodies were discovered.

The University is going to pay dearly for their blunder.


2,468 posted on 04/16/2007 3:07:00 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: LexHoskin
I'll betcha freepers will have the perp's verified name, rank and serial number posted on this thread before the MSM announces it on the air.

It may already be posted here but I just sat down at the computer. My poor eyes refuse to go through two thousand-plus comments to find a name, LOL.

Leni

2,469 posted on 04/16/2007 3:07:02 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
I don’t think the constitution really works. It has to be stretched and altered in order to reflect reality.

glad to see you are burnt toast...enjoy ZOT-Land!

2,470 posted on 04/16/2007 3:07:31 PM PDT by NewLand (Always remember September 11, 2001)
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To: NewLand

<< “He was just a normal looking kid, Asian, but he had on... >>

That from above —
I think it unlikely that Virginia college kids are going to describe Pakistanis or Indians or Afghans as “Asian” although a Brit college kid would. More likely he was East Asian, such as Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean or possibly Indonesian.

If so, then I’ll bet it’s unlikely he was ROP, unless he was Indonesian. Undoubtedly we will find in due course.


2,471 posted on 04/16/2007 3:07:47 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: dragnet2

If the “girlfriend” (if one exists) also was shot in the face, it might take a while to ID her as well.


2,473 posted on 04/16/2007 3:08:00 PM PDT by jdm
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To: GraniteStateConservative
You're positing a kid's name and picture based on a rumor? You better have more than that, Mr. Nifong.
2,474 posted on 04/16/2007 3:08:20 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: LexHoskin

Alert from Virginia Citizen’s Defense League (who had pushed for a law allowing students with CHP’s to carry):

“As most of you know VCDL has been pushing hard to change Virginia law
to allow college and university students with concealed handgun
permits to be able to carry a gun on campus for self-defense.

Last year Delegate Todd Gilbert put in such a bill for us and so did
Delegate Mark Cole this year.

We could not get the bills out of subcommittee.

We warned the General Assembly that violent crime can, and does,
happen on campuses across the Commonwealth.

But the university and college lobbyists swore that crime was not an
issue and that the schools did not want students and visitors to be
able to defend themselves with a gun or other weapon. They argued
that the schools had little boxes with lights that had a button
someone could press if they needed the police.

The General Assembly turned a deaf ear to allowing college and
university students to be able to protect themselves and here we are
today :-(

While it is NOT illegal for a college or university student with a
CHP to carry in Virginia, they could get expelled (or fired if a
teacher). And that is a severe enough financial penalty that students
don’t want to take the chance. Who can blame them?

But, I’ll bet a few are reconsidering their position now. Expelled
by 1 or carried by 6?

VCDL will make it a high priority again next year to get a bill
introduced that will let students and faculty carry.

I don’t want to hear from universities and colleges any more about
crime not happening on campuses, or the police will save you if there
is a problem, or that we need more gun control on campuses.

ENOUGH OF ELITIST BALONEY FROM COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES!

If just ONE of those victims had been armed, this most probably would
have turned out very differently.”


2,475 posted on 04/16/2007 3:08:59 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Quix
The radical realist received the zot, and it wasn't me that mashed the abuse button. I was just giving him more rope...
2,477 posted on 04/16/2007 3:09:26 PM PDT by DocRock (What would Solomon Do?)
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To: irish guard

It’s after 6:00 est and police say they have been unable to id the shooter yet. I don’t buy it. This guy had to be on someone’s radar.


2,479 posted on 04/16/2007 3:09:37 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: kabar

Man, you are a genius..and who are you exactly to spew at me? You know *zero* about me sir or madam. And happily it will stay that way. I am expressing my opinion and a belief in the 2nd Amendment, none of which was directed at you, and your attack on me is the work of a troll trying to provoke a flame war. It will not work.
(Anybody in the military knows what those letters stand for. Go take out a loan and buy a clue).


2,480 posted on 04/16/2007 3:09:39 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot (Nothing is so simple that it can't be done wrong.)
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