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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Cicero
But there are a lot of Asian Muslims out there...

Seems to me the jihadists out there usually scream "Allah Akbar!" or such drivel while they are killing innocents, doesn't seem to be the case here (yet).

2,601 posted on 04/16/2007 3:44:33 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: mutley; umgud

Hmm, fishy yes, but I don’t think I would do much talking to the Press if I saw that kind of carnage against the innocent (that being said, I would have been armed and proactive).


2,602 posted on 04/16/2007 3:44:40 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: DCBryan1
That would only serve as a filter for your personal ping page...it wouldn't eliminate the reply on the forum.

I don't know about you, but I would want to see when somebody is either addressing me or referring to me.

2,603 posted on 04/16/2007 3:44:46 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Little Bill

Yep, SirKit is a Statistician, though these days, he’s unemployed, through his own choice. It’s more like a sabbatical because he’s working on some Math research he’s been noodling about on and off for the last 20 years. We’re also in the process of remodeling our home to sell so we can move back home to MS.


2,604 posted on 04/16/2007 3:45:35 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: meg88

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2,605 posted on 04/16/2007 3:45:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: LexHoskin

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Emergency volunteers were just interviewed on NBC Nightly News and said that one year ago they planned for a mass casualty gun attack. So they had planned for just such an incident.

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2,606 posted on 04/16/2007 3:46:00 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: jveritas

The blood is on the hands of the VA state legislature that banned CCW on college campuses...


2,607 posted on 04/16/2007 3:46:56 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes you can, by calling on State police and the local town police.


2,608 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:03 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ScreamingFist
If you would like to see 21 year old with guns....swing over to LA, the gang bangers will give you a fine lesson on irresponsible juveniles with guns.....

Are you saying that 21 year olds are juveniles??? Excuse me, but 21 yo is an ADULT!

2,609 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:30 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org ? Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: trumandogz; Wyatt's Torch
I guess it depends on the definition of “terrorism”...

The definition of terrorism would be based on motive rather than religion.

Terrorism is defined as the unlawful use of force and violence against persons and property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

--FBI Definition of Terrorism

2,610 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:32 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Cicero
If, indeed, the perp(s) is/are connected to something sinister, time must be allowed for negotiations between our country and "theirs"; or for research and investigation into a possible cell of any kind of affiliation.

The "girlfriend" story sounds like a "cover", to me.

Unknown at this point is whether there was more than 1 shooter. Were I in charge? Like bloody hell, I'd go on tape announcing there were other shooters live and on the lose in the community, in another state, etc. I'd be collecting evidence and following tracks.

I'm not trying to be light on this score; but what if the shooter's name happened to be "Ho". No id, no face on the alleged perp.

Ho is an actual family name in Vietnam.

2,611 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:47 PM PDT by Alia
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To: DCBryan1
I'll knock it off it you will submit that there are, and will always be a small percentage of responsible, 21 year old college students that should be able to practice their constitutional rights to self defense by carrying CCW on college classrooms/buildings.

Not only that, but there are large numbers of "non-traditional" (read: older) students, lots of ex-mil, along with grad students.

I carried illegally when I taught as a grad student on an urban univ. campus. It's one thing to trust your employer to insure your safety in a private business with (somewhat) controlled access to the premises. Colleges are wide open and have unmanageable human traffic patterns.

2,612 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:54 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Doomonyou

By all accounts this guy was suicidal over his girlfriend.


2,613 posted on 04/16/2007 3:47:58 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule-H.L. Menken)
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To: Jet Jaguar

That place is 4x’s bigger than our nearest town..Can’t secure something like that,,just arm it..


2,614 posted on 04/16/2007 3:48:05 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The question to be raised it how many of those students arrived for class after the first shooting, and were shot. You can certainly turn away traffic at the entrances, and use email / phone tree technology to inform people in short order that something is amiss.


2,615 posted on 04/16/2007 3:48:08 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: mutley; umgud

If you were a witness in this situation, would you rather talk first to the police or the press?

I would probably slap the reporter who shoved a mic in my face.


2,616 posted on 04/16/2007 3:48:38 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: SuziQ
I have to agree with DCBryan, actually. Here's what went wrong:

1. In 2006, the VA administration managed to whip up enough support in the state house to shoot down a bill that would allow properly licensed and trained students to carry concealed weapons on the VA Tech campus. In Virginia, carrying a concealed firearm is lawful on campus... With the sole exception being state-owned VA Tech. Now look what's happened: Students were sitting ducks with no means to resist being killed. Again, well-meaning gun control fuels the greatest school massacre in modern US history.

2. The police response time was two hours between the first shooting and the second spree. No students were notified by campus email. The only indication to most students that there was a dangerous situation on campus was when they encountered the gunman shooting at them even though he'd been killing students for over two hours.

I am sorry, but I am not going to cut the VA Tech authorities any slack for a situation that they partially created just because they're feeling sad at the moment. Since when does grief negate responsibility?

2,617 posted on 04/16/2007 3:48:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: silentknight

Someone should check and see how much homeland security money has been spent on this college. Would be interesting to know whether or not they had a real plan for an event like this and how much money has been spent at the school in the last five or six years.


2,619 posted on 04/16/2007 3:49:17 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: glock rocks
Well, that's what happens when one makes a succinct, irrefutable point. Maybe he banned himself to avoid the shame.

= )

(But, seriously, he probably shouldn't have been banned. Even for his ridiculous comments on the Constitution. Just spanked. Verbally, of course, as he was.)

2,620 posted on 04/16/2007 3:49:24 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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