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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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Just getting home and just found out about this. Any info on shooter, weapon used, etc.....


2,721 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:07 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: whershey

>>I’m starting to wonder myself why they can’t ID this guy. If he was the boyfriend of the first girl to be shot you’d think getting his ID would be a breeze.<<

Besides which, aren’t there any security cameras at any of these buildings that could have caught him on tape?


2,722 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:08 PM PDT by KylaStarr
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To: Toskrin
goes home reads tame email warning about the first shooting, gets pumped up to return to make major headlines.

They can check email providers for any town usa. There are lots of ways to i.d. the killer, i.e. suicide shooter.

2,723 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: Jeff Head

Excellent post.


2,724 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:12 PM PDT by Twink
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To: mommya

Toy. Shoots little plastic things. Can be real looking to the untrained eye. Should have an orange plug on the barrel but everyone paints over them.


2,725 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:29 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: DCBryan1; BROKKANIC
"Those are those stupid Airsoft guns."

I concur... soft air gun
2,726 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:01 PM PDT by DocRock (What would Solomon Do?)
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To: dragnet2

Exactly. Another one of the mysteries. You know, I got really annoyed when the President of Virginia T. said, “we have to begin healing and going on” or something like that. They haven’t even notified all the parents and he’s talking about healing!!!! These people are just unreal. How do you heal from something you haven’t even processed yet?

This is what our liberal, psychobabble, politically correct culture is doing to people.


2,727 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:15 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Old Sarge

If it was some kind of crime of passion or anger, the guy must have felt rejected by the entire student body. There’s no way this was just a girlfriend. If it were jealousy over a girl and some guy, I can see him shooting the two of them and maybe someone else who got in the way, but to cross campus, arm himself to the teeth and even thinking to chain the exits shut? If it was a crime of passion, it was planned well in advance, a dish served very cold. And I don’t see the point in shooting over 50 people over jealousy. Doesn’t make sense.


2,728 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:22 PM PDT by Sender ("She is the friendly face of America; where Condi frowns, Nancy smiles." (Syria))
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To: LexHoskin

Amie Steele, the Editor-in-Chief of the Collegiate Times is on CNN.

Why the hell does this dumb bimbo keep smiling and laughing?


2,729 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:23 PM PDT by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: dragnet2

I thought I heard them say left the state too - did I imagine that?


2,730 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:32 PM PDT by mommya
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To: eastforker

Still fog of war BIG TIME. I keep hearing he had two 9MM’s..maybe wearing armor.


2,731 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:43 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Figures that the best coverage would be from half way ‘round the world.


2,732 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:47 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: silentknight
BUT yet they said they knew the gunman was on the loose. UMMMM hello :)

They were under the impression, though I don't know how, that he had left campus. Most police would have that same impression, I would think, when they come upon what, by all indications, is a domestic dispute. They would assume the killer had gotten as far away from the scene as possible.

2,733 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: whershey
I’m starting to wonder myself why they can’t ID this guy. If he was the boyfriend of the first girl to be shot you’d think getting his ID would be a breeze.

At some point today I read that one of the reasons they were having trouble IDing the guy is that he no longer has a face.

I suppose given that, and if he wasn't carrying ID, they'd want to be extra-careful about running those fingerprints, lest they "name" the wrong guy.

2,734 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:33 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I have to wonder about the two hour gap between the two shootings. Why would a gunman with a specific personal target kill that person then wait 2 hours to rampage and massacre people he did not know?

If after the first shooting he was in a blind fury why not start shooting at random right after the first shooting? Why wait 2 hours? Was he counting on the first incident being determined to be isolated? Was he hoping that waiting so long would mean security and police would think the campus was safe?

In is my opinion this was a very planned deliberate attack. I think no matter the motive of the first shooting it was a kind of practice/ decoy run. The perp probably watched very closely the police, security and EMT responses to the shooting. He brought chains with him to block exit doors. Bet if he knew someone might be shooting back he might not have been so keen to commit mass murder.

2,735 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:35 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: mommya

No. They DID say that. I wondered the same thing myself. This is the most bizarre thing.


2,736 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:13 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: dragnet2

If they don’t know who he is, how do they know he had a girlfriend problem? If they know who the girlfriend is, they know his ID, by now. Why they won’t release his name is a mystery.


2,737 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:13 PM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: Zeon Cowboy
Why the hell does this dumb bimbo keep smiling and laughing?

And has a professional makeup job going?

Well, we know why: Because she's enjoying it.

2,738 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:22 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: mommya

I thought I heard the same. My first thought was what would make them think this?


2,739 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I *THINK* that post is in the first 750 posts on this thread. Best I can do. Sorry.


2,740 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:38 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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