Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Good points. Internal injuries could be made much worse by fling them over the shoulder.
I have never forgotten Beslan...and I never fail to check out the parking lot at my granddaughter’s school when I go up there.
An attack like at Beslan is my biggest fear...
Friend of mine says that an active at his fraternity reports that the shooter first had an argument with his girlfriend - it escalated, and he shot her. Then, about an hour later, he went over to Norris Hall and started popping people. All hearsay, of course.
I would imagine it will be awhile before we know exactly what happened....if ever. I have to pick DD up from school and take a cat to the vet, but will post more if I hear from my husband again...with any more State Police reports.
This is the first incident I haven’t heard the FBI and local authorities poohpooh...this guy knew what he was doing.
I REALLY wish I could post some of the liberal comments about this from another board I peruse...
The level of hatred is utterly AMAZING...
Some wonder why the killer didn’t murder President Bush, instead, etc,etc...
Come look for yourself, you’ll be utterly STUNNED...
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_H/forumview?bn=8267
What about him? What is your point, besides the fact that you like bunnies?
Why, isn't more than half of the Muslim world in Asia? Hmmm...
Yes, but if those people are wounded, fireman-style would cause them to bleed out faster due to gravity. This way, unless they’re shot in the back, most of the blood stays in the torso.
From what I am hearing...on FNC. It sounds like this is all premediated! He locked the doors with a chain and went in and knew just where he was going and what he was going to do. Way too much amo for this to be a disgruntal boyfriend. This is INSANE and our country is going to pay for the stupidity and terror we have put our youth and kids through over the past 20 years.
QUITE plausible.
More than enough to be concerned about and active about all around.
Thx.
Archive this before the timeline is lost....
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/
VA Tech: “The worst campus shooting in US history”
Submitted by admin on Mon, 2007-04-16 16:23. U.S. News
Source: suspect might have made bomb threats to Virginia Tech Engineering building last week.
16 April 2006: A male in his 20’s, apparently of Asian origin who opened fire at Virginia Tech is confirmed dead in Blacksburg, Virginia. Fatalities appear to be at least 30, perhaps more. The motive under investigation.
The Northeast Intelligence Network is following this incident closely.
Shooting Timeline
Monday, April 16th 2007 12:23PM: Virginia Tech police have confirmed 22 fatalities resulting from the campus shootings today. The gunman has also been confirmed dead.
Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall by police. The three were handcuffed, separated, questioned, unhandcuffed and then canine teams were sent into Norris Hall said junior computer engineer Nick Saunders who watched the events unfold from the the second floor of Randolph Hall.
According to the university, classes have been cancelled for Tuesday, April 17.
11:57AM: Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall in handcuffs by police. The three were then unhandcuffed and canine teams were sent into Norris Hall.
11:50AM: The Associated Press has reported at least one death and seven injuries stemming from two shooting incidents on the Virginia Tech campus. Police have taken one person into custody and continue to search for another as part of routine procedure.
11:36AM: At this time, University Relations is reporting one individual in custody and is searching for a second shooter. The Collegiate Times will publish information as it is made available.
10:36AM: Due to serious wind helicopters cannot be used to transfer the injured. According to the police scanner, ambulances are being used to transport the victims to Montgomery Regional Hospital.
10:32AM: At this time, one death and one injury have been confirmed. More information will be made available as it breaks.
10:20AM: All classes are canceled.
10:04AM: The university is encouraging everyone to stay indoors and away from windows. West Ambler Johnston and Squires are currently on confirmed lock down.
10:00AM: A gunman is confirmed loose on campus.
Monday, April 16th 2007 9:47AM: Shots were fired on campus in West Ambler Johnson Hall in the early morning hours.
Courtesy VA Collegiate Times
I will repeat my reply to another “no holds barred” poster:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818131/posts?page=1306#1306
Ping #77.
If the shooter really did kill himself then I’m inclined to agree. An Islamic terrorist would want to be killed (to be a martyr and all that crap). Then again, the 9/11 hijacker’s killed themselves, but they kind of had to.
You might pray about upping your schedule a year or 3.
God be with you Bro.
placemark
Thank you for the update, VirginiaMom.
ping to 1272— EXCELLENT INFORMATION.
You're claiming that civilian CCW would have prevented this. That's almost certainly not true, at least in the first classroom. Weapons would have been in backpacks, not in easy reach, and the shooter would have the advantage of surprise as well.
CCW may have prevented him from moving on to a second room -- but that presumes that the armed students had some idea of how to respond. Otherwise -- if they're just barricaded and waiting -- the guy still has the advantage of surprise.
Not to mention the likelihood of "friendly fire" fatalities, caused by armed students firing over the heads of their classmates.
As for "proper police tactics," well .... how are the police supposed to respond to something like this, where the shootings would have taken much less time than required for the cops to arrive?
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