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Virginia shootings: Eyewitness accounts
BBC News ^ | April 16, 2007

Posted on 04/16/2007 11:14:52 AM PDT by processing please hold

Eyewitnesses at Virginia Tech university have been emailing the BBC News website describing the scene at the campus, where at least 22 people have been killed and more injured.

Read a selection of them below, as they come in.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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To: kabar

Just like in every state that has CCW permits, right!
NOT!
angel


81 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:01 PM PDT by mbiangel (The Devil died and they elected Algore Prince of the Air!)
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To: chadwimc
How would you react to the cops charging in “guns ablazin’”, wounding and killing innocents?

They would only have to shoot the person holding the gun.

82 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
They would only have to shoot the person holding the gun.

Unless some brave student or teacher had also ingored the "gun free zone" and was going after the perp. Can't assume that only the perp is armed. (Several mass shootings have been stopped by just those types of people, although the MSM never reports those facts.)

83 posted on 04/16/2007 12:47:58 PM PDT by piytar
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To: stuartcr

Its like the drug free zones around schools...yeah right...


84 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:26 PM PDT by muslims=borg (You don't own property in New Jersey; you rent it from your local school board.)
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To: Mila; All
"I don’t think that the shooting went on for two hours. I heard that there was a two hour gap"

Just heard FBI said they called school and asked why there was not locked-down. Someone on phone said sorry we are buisy and hung up! --- Lives could have been saved and someones head is gonna roll.

85 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:37 PM PDT by anglian
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To: kabar

Just think on a fri or sat nite after a big game that was lost, and about 20 beers...


86 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:42 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: piytar
Unless some brave student or teacher had also ingored the "gun free zone" and was going after the perp.

Wouldn't that be considered a felony? Do you think they would risk breaking that golden rule considering the consequences if they were caught or would they obey it?

87 posted on 04/16/2007 12:52:03 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: kabar
College students age 18 to 22 running around campus armed with handguns? There would be far more killed and injured than what happened at VA Tech. Based on my own college experience, I would hate to think what would happen. Fistfights would become gunfights. Insane.

I believe in most states CCW's (and often pistol ownership) are limited to those 21 and older. With luck you would have an armed professor, maintanance guy or cook.

88 posted on 04/16/2007 12:52:11 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: piytar
Possibly one of the most ignorant posts I've seen here EVER. You're post sounds just like the statements by the guns banners that Detroit would become a free fire zone if shall-issue passed in Michigan. The law passed, and no free fire zone resulted.

Just because I disagee with you doesn't make me ignorant. We have 15 million college students. If you think that arming them all with handguns will make college campuses safer, you are nuts. How many college students are killed by guns now each year on campus? Using one incident like today's to make policy does not place this tragedy in the proper context. This is a very rare occurrence. The chances of getting shot on campus are probably less than being struck by lightning. And you can still be shot even if armed.

BTW, how old do you think most of our troops are? Last I checked, they carry guns. Do you think the rules for carrying are different for 18 to 22 year olds? The penalties for using a firearm improperly? Can 18 to 22 year olds drive (cars kill far more than firearms every year)?

Using your logic, we should start arming 17 and 18 year olds in high school.

You post is the pinacle of feeling-based abject stupidity.

It has nothing to do with feeling, but rather thinking. I don't agree with the rationale for arming 15 million college students because of an isolated incident.

89 posted on 04/16/2007 12:53:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Our man in washington
If the shooter is a Muslim, expect to see approximately 5,000 articles on “why we shouldn’t blame a religion for the actions of one lone nut.”

WRONG. There will be 5,000 articles about how Bush's illegal war is creating all these terrorists.

90 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: processing please hold

PravdABDNC is waiting to find out if he is Mooselimb or Christian to decide how to cover this.

Pray for W and Va Tech


91 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:53 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: processing please hold
Wouldn't that be considered a felony? Do you think they would risk breaking that golden rule considering the consequences if they were caught or would they obey it?

Depends on the state. Where this has happened, though, the DA usually quietly decides not to prosecute. Actually, I've never heard of a prosecution in these circumstances (in the US that is -- in the UK, you're likely to do more time than the perp).

92 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:03 PM PDT by piytar
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To: brent1a

I was in a shooting at my company, (ESL, 9 dead, 5 more injured), and there is no way anyone could prepare for it.

Every instance is different. There is little information going on.

I was very lucky to get out. I wasn’t in my office, but in someone else’s office when a co-worker said that there was a man with a gun shooting people.

You couldn’t use pre-planned exits because we didn’t know where he was. Lots of people climbed up in the roofs and hid.

I got out quickly because I was close to an exit on the opposite side of the building.

It also takes time for SWAT to get there. All of the victims were killed in the first few minutes way before the police got there.

I just ran outside and then through another building, and all the way across our company’s campus.

No way can teach common sense, and that’s what you need in this kind of situation. You can’t panic, but use common sense.


93 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:30 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: chadwimc

They were hiding behind the cars in Columbine.

The pictures I have seen of this tragedy show heavily armed police outside and students carrying other students out to safety.

It’s starting to look like the same reaction as in Columbine.


94 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:53 PM PDT by Overseez
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To: stuartcr
Just think on a fri or sat nite after a big game that was lost, and about 20 beers...

LOL. I remember those nights well. I used to make my own beer 30 gallons at a time. I also worked as a bartender and saw more than my fair share of drunks and fights. And this was on 2% beer.

I can just imagine what it would be like in the dorms with people cleaning their weapons, checking them out, etc. Accidents waiting to happen. I saw enough of it in the military and we were checked out on the weapons.

95 posted on 04/16/2007 12:58:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bray
Is it just me, or is it taking too long to give out info on the shooter?

We know who the media wants this to be.

96 posted on 04/16/2007 12:59:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: piytar

I’m thinking about that guy in NY on the subway who shot those thugs. His name escapes me. Wasn’t he charged?


97 posted on 04/16/2007 1:01:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
Here's a line from the NYPost

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."

How quickly they jump on that phrase.

Funny. They don't know the name of the shooter nor his motive, but are denying it was terrorism.
Right.
98 posted on 04/16/2007 1:02:02 PM PDT by Overseez
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To: kabar

I just look at where I live on any given nite. There seems to be a shooting at least 3 or 4 times a week around clubs that cater to kids of college age.


99 posted on 04/16/2007 1:02:43 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: kabar
Who says ALL students should be armed? My understanding is that carrying a concealed weapon would be a matter of choice.
100 posted on 04/16/2007 1:04:33 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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