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Sources: Virginia Tech gunman left note
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 17, 2007 | Aamer Madhani

Posted on 04/17/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.

The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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To: dljordan

“A firearm AND PROZAC!”

At Columbine it was firearms and Paxil.


HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

America Over-Dosed:
The Role Of Anti-Depressants
In The Columbine Tragedy
& Other Bizarre Killings
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Columbine/Columbine-Bollyn.html


Minnesota Red Lake School Shooter Jeff Weise, age 17 - taking Prozac
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/casualties.htm


Primary care doctors prescribe SSRI-antidepressants to millions of adults, adolescents and children, certainly not only for treatment of depression anymore. SSRI’s are prescribed for school phobias, bed wetting, eating disorders, sleep disturbances (insomnia), nail biting, hair pulling, headache, gambling addiction, alcohol addiction, back pain, stomach upset, premenstrual syndrome, etc., and even to “feel better then well”. SSRI’s have become all purpose “feel good pills”, nowadays, in the year 2000. Unfortunately many doctors are unaware of the major consequences and some of them don’t even seem to care. They argue that the positive effects of SSRI’s far outweigh their negative effects. Nothing could be further from the truth.
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/introduction.htm


Sam Manzie, 15, attacked, raped and strangled to death an 11-year-old boy selling items door to door for the PTA. He was on Paxil.

Kip Kinkel, 14, killed his parents and went on a shooting rampage at his Springfield, Ore., high school. He was taking Ritalin and Prozac.

Jeremy Strohmeyer raped and murdered a 7-year-old girl one week after he started taking Dexedrine.

Columbine High School’s Eric Harris was taking Luvox.

T.J. Solomon, 15, who attended Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., was taking Ritalin when he opened fire on his classmates, wounding six.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/2/181622.shtml

Let us not focus on the guns and start focusing on the real killers of our young people. It is the drug companies.


181 posted on 04/17/2007 9:41:12 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Click my name and see my baby. Thank you sooo much Brad's Gramma)
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To: nmh

Well if he was it will be covered up by the media, or the very least it will be downplayed. Now if he was a Christian on the other hand...err, well you know where I’m going!


182 posted on 04/17/2007 9:41:14 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: 3AngelaD

You got that right, it is very useful to keep an eye on those who claim to be keeping an eye on others. Well said there Angela.


183 posted on 04/17/2007 9:41:27 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: najida

My bet is that he wasn’t even that organized. It might be misspelled or misinterpreted by investigators.


184 posted on 04/17/2007 9:41:43 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: isthisnickcool
He was an English major so I'd hope he'd have written something that could be understood.

That's not the way it's done anymore.

185 posted on 04/17/2007 9:42:28 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Hildy
Please...why makes this worse than it is.

What if this killer is actually a muslim terrorist carrying out the orders of his imam?

186 posted on 04/17/2007 9:43:34 AM PDT by mborman (Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: GuineaRabbit
Maybe of interest —> you can re arrange the letters ISMAIL AX to be ISLAM with XAI left over.

"Islam with a nine."

187 posted on 04/17/2007 9:43:55 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Oceans99
"Psychiatrists describe depression as 'anger turned inwards'."

The anger turns OUTWARD in some of the depressed young on anti-depressants. They don't get "happy and carefree" like a lot of older people on them.

188 posted on 04/17/2007 9:44:04 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: colorado tanker

I think he’s been in the U.S. since he was around 8 years old.


189 posted on 04/17/2007 9:44:10 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Ellesu
That bit of information makes this incident terrorism IMO.

He acted on his perceived victimology and used Allah to justify it.

There is no difference between what he did, and the 9/11 hijackers did, or any of the other myriad of attacks in the the last thirty or so years, in my opinion.

190 posted on 04/17/2007 9:44:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: GuineaRabbit

“Maybe of interest —> you can re arrange the letters ISMAIL AX to be ISLAM with XAI left over”

“Xai” is a Korean name of some sort, I deduce from a Google search. I defer to someone who can read the language.


191 posted on 04/17/2007 9:45:14 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Moose4; Virulas
Ouch. I thought those were more like "Lsdklfjsd".

Ooh, I hope he's on my server. Gotta buy that epic flying mount! ;)

192 posted on 04/17/2007 9:45:48 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: 3AngelaD

So he left a note decrying the “rich white kids” - this guy sounds like a big lib.

So there you have it, liberalism really does kill.


193 posted on 04/17/2007 9:46:09 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: 3AngelaD
Cho died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

Now why did he affix that muslim name on his arm?

He thought by now he'd be in heaven meeting 72 virgins.

194 posted on 04/17/2007 9:46:18 AM PDT by mborman (Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: sportutegrl

Look at who wrote this article . . .


195 posted on 04/17/2007 9:47:36 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: meg88
"Both Jewish and Islamic traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people..."

I may be assuming to much, but can't we assume after four years of college as an "English" major, the killer could make a simple spelling distinction.

"Ismial" not = "Ishmael"

"Ismial" is exclusively a Muslim spelling of a common Muslim name.

196 posted on 04/17/2007 9:48:27 AM PDT by drpix
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To: rhombus
A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.

He could have been writing about the Congress.

197 posted on 04/17/2007 9:48:37 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Ellesu
Something like

polynomials and fuzzy math?

My guess but I am a mathematical retard

198 posted on 04/17/2007 9:48:46 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: muawiyah
There were mass murderers long before Prozac was invented. What drove them to it?

More to the point ... if the boy was off his meds, then he'd be just as nuts as those previous mass murderers.

199 posted on 04/17/2007 9:49:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: WashingtonStateRepublican
Despite this devil coming from South Korea, who’s to say he didn’t convert to or at least sympathize with the Muzzies after he came to the US.

Nothing. My point is right now we don't know anything about him except that he exhibited the behavior of a mentally unstable loner.

That said, the chances of an immigrant from South Korea succumbing to sudden jihadi syndrome are remote, although this "ismail ax" thing is sure strange.

200 posted on 04/17/2007 9:49:37 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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