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Sources: Virginia Tech gunman left note
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 17, 2007 | Aamer Madhani

Posted on 04/17/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.

The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antidepressant; antidepressants; democratunderground; du; duer; dummy; ismailax; shooter; vatech; virginiatech; vtech
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To: pa mom
"And I also think that some here will not believe it even if there is overwhelming evidence that he is just a troubled young man."

Considering what this kid did yesterday, I would say that is incontrovertible evidence that he is not only troubled, but crazy beyond belief. I'm curious about who prescribed the anti-depressants for him? A GP at the Infirmary, a GP that he or his parents chose to treat him, or a shrink?

241 posted on 04/17/2007 10:10:00 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: FJB2

I’ll bet that the vast majority of murderers have never taken any antidepressants. I’ll bet though that the majority of them have eaten carrots. Therefore according to your logic, it’s the carrots.


Check out these murderers:

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/casualties.htm


242 posted on 04/17/2007 10:10:22 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: colorado tanker

There is a strong possibility that he was a convert to Islam.

“Ismail,” the other son of Abraham, is said by the Bible to be the progenitor of the nomadic Arabs.

But according to Islam, Ismail was the son Allah chose to be his prophet, not Isaac.

Ismail is the way it is spelled by Muslims.

Ax suggests a weapon used to destroy, perhaps to destroy idolatry. It also occurs to me that it sounds like “Ismail X,” which would be a typical Black Muslim name.

No, we don’t know for sure that he was a Jihadi. But everything is consistent with it, including the evident premeditation in these mass killings. Maybe he was insane, but this was not a sudden outburst of insanity. It was planned. He bought the guns weeks earlier, and he had the necessary green card to do it, not a student visa. He had the lock and chain so he could bar the door to the building. And many other indications of deliberate planning.

I, too, would like to see the full note. But the ATF and the FBI have consistently covered up all instances of domestic Muslim terrorism, and I would be astounded if they did anything else in this instance. There have been a large number of cases of “Sudden Jihad Syndrome” in the US. But few people know about that, because the authorities and media have buried the details. They wouldn’t want to scare us or risk the possibility that people might get a bit . . . Islamophobic.

So, maybe he was nuts, maybe he was drug ridden, but I suspect he was also acting out the usual Muslim fantasies.


243 posted on 04/17/2007 10:11:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Just point of information: The Hebrew for Ismail or Ishmael is, phonetically spelled: Yishmael. First letter is a “yud” which is pronounced like Y.


244 posted on 04/17/2007 10:11:31 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: dljordan

Maybe ... .


245 posted on 04/17/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Cicero

Ismail is also a computer programming thing. My techie son tried to explain it to me, but it went over my head. He also said Ax is a gamer tag. Maybe our trusty researchers here can find more.


246 posted on 04/17/2007 10:15:14 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: 353FMG

“You’re still not convinced that Islam is a ROP, are you? What will it take for you to see the light?”

;)

I don’t know.

Have to listen to Bush more and have it drummed into my head.


247 posted on 04/17/2007 10:15:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: ctdonath2
...this page, where a similar-looking guy is refered to as "ismael ax".

The correct spelling, indeed on that page is, "ismail ax"

Cordially,

248 posted on 04/17/2007 10:15:45 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: WashingtonStateRepublican

Did you put Cho Seung-Hui islam in quotes, as you wrote it in your post?

I did and it came back with 0 articles.


249 posted on 04/17/2007 10:16:06 AM PDT by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay

“Well if he was it will be covered up by the media, or the very least it will be downplayed. Now if he was a Christian on the other hand...err, well you know where I’m going!”

Sure do!

You’re absolutely RIGHT!


250 posted on 04/17/2007 10:16:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: april15Bendovr

“deceitful charlatans”

is that a buzzword among college kids these days?


251 posted on 04/17/2007 10:17:44 AM PDT by Ellesu
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To: penowa

“The gunman suspected of carrying out the Virginia Tech massacre that left 33 people dead was identified Tuesday as a English major whose creative writing was so disturbing that he was referred to the school’s counseling service.”

Just saw this—


252 posted on 04/17/2007 10:18:12 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Hatteras
Maybe he was proselytizing.Maybe he meant "Ax me about Ismael".
253 posted on 04/17/2007 10:18:54 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The Drive-By Media is attempting to Cronkite the Iraq war.)
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To: sweetiepiezer
Blaming antidepressants for murder is like women blaming their menstrual cycle

Antidepressants don't kill people do

254 posted on 04/17/2007 10:19:00 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Al Gator

You missed what I said. The shooters stopped their prozac and THEN went postal.

I’m not a chemist, I only know what I’ve read.

The prozac does work, as long as you keep taking it. You stop, and all hell breaks loose with your body chemistry.

So I’ve read.


And you have read right. If theese drugs are stopped improperly, it is worse than when they were on them.
They have to be stopped, by cutting back on them and also under doctors orders.

I haveread about them for years and everytime someone say, what has happened.....why are these people killing people...etc....Andrea Yates for example...check the drugs they were on.

Where is the outrage in America over these drug lobbying companies.

GREED, GREED, GREED.


255 posted on 04/17/2007 10:19:35 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Cedar; Suzy Quzy; Jack Hammer

Ibrahim was saved from a fire in the posted story.


256 posted on 04/17/2007 10:20:22 AM PDT by pby
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To: RightWhale

It was my possible scenario on the Savage thread, as well.


257 posted on 04/17/2007 10:20:57 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: Cicero

Another meaning of “Ishmael” is “social outcast” according to my dictionary.


258 posted on 04/17/2007 10:22:23 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; pa mom

He was mentally ill.

Nothing makes sense or will be logical.


259 posted on 04/17/2007 10:22:27 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: nmh

I wonder if the arabs realize they are half Jewish? And, yes, their illegitimacy negates any claim to the land that God promised to the Jews.


260 posted on 04/17/2007 10:22:41 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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