GUN CONTROL IS TOUGH SELL IN CONGRESS

ABC 7 NEWS ^ | 17 APRIL 2007 | ABC 7 NEWS

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Gun control advocates made little headway after another bloody April shootout eight years ago and acknowledged Tuesday they face similarly tough odds in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings. "It is a tough sell," said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., the House's most ardent proponent of gun control legislation.

In 1999, after the Columbine High School killings in Colorado left 15 dead, including the two shooters, lawmakers unsuccessfully introduced dozens of bills to require mandatory child safety locks on new handguns, ban "Saturday night specials," increase the minimum age for gun purchases and require background checks on weapons bought at gun shows.

A month after the Columbine shootings, then Vice President Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate to advance a juvenile crime bill that included gun show restrictions. But the bill died after a year of on-and-off negotiations with the House, where gun rights lawmakers held sway.

Gun control became an issue in the 2000 election and many political analysts say Gore, assailed by the National Rifle Association for supporting gun control, lost critical votes in rural states where voters are strong supporters of gun rights.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored the 1994 federal assault weapons ban that Congress allowed to expire in 2004, said in a statement that she believed the killings at Virginia Tech would "re-ignite the dormant effort to pass commonsense gun regulations in this nation."

But while Democrats now control the Congress, many of its new members are gun rights supporters from rural states.

McCarthy said she is trying to promote legislation that will be acceptable to gun rights people, including a bill that would require instant background checks for gun purchases rather than making buyers wait a day or more.

[beltfed308]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored the 1994 federal assault weapons ban that Congress allowed to expire in 2004, said in a statement that she believed the killings at Virginia Tech would "re-ignite the dormant effort to pass commonsense gun regulations in this nation."

Senator your common sense gun regulations just cost another 30 lives yesterday.STFU!

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McCarthy said she is trying to promote legislation that will be acceptable to gun rights people, including a bill that would require instant background checks for gun purchases rather than making buyers wait a day or more.

I guess she's never heard of the NICS system.

You have to wonder what these people are thinking when they propose waiting periods (I mean logically. We already know the true intent of all these "safety" laws.). Most gun buyers probably already own one or more firearms, so a delay won't hinder their access to a firearm.

[OKSooner]

This will change with the right demagogue in the White House. Madame Speaker will parade all the reps into her office and tell them how they're going to vote, and that will be that.

Republicans in the Senate will "defer" as always.

[goldstategop]

NO! The last thing we need is more unnecessary restrictions to burden the rights of law-abiding citizens.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[aberaussie]

bttt

[Will_Zurmacht]

Question for you folks..

I’ve never owned a firearm, but I’ve been thinking about getting one for about a year. (Ok, I used a .410 shotgun as a kid, but I’ve never owned one myself)
The recent events have pretty much convinced me to get one. Now, I talked with friends and they suggested that I buy a basic revolver.

Does this seem like a reasonable suggestion to you folks?
I was just checking and at the local auction there are several revolvers for sale. I know nothing about firearms so my goal is cheap and simple for a complete beginner at this point.

Couple questions:
Should a buy a cheapo revolver at the auction (several going for 60-100 bucks) or plunk down a larger chunk of change on a new weapon? (I’m on a limited budget)

What sort of paperwork should I need? I haveno crimes, No felonies, legal resident, I even pay my taxes!

How does one go about learning how to use this properly? I know I’ll need training, what does this usually entail?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

[BallyBill]

...many of its new members are gun rights supporters from rural states.

Translation= Uneducated Redneck Hicks.

[meandog]

I’ve never owned a firearm, but I’ve been thinking about getting one for about a year. (Ok, I used a .410 shotgun as a kid, but I’ve never owned one myself) The recent events have pretty much convinced me to get one. Now, I talked with friends and they suggested that I buy a basic revolver Does this seem like a reasonable suggestion to you folks?.

Revolver is a good begining as they don't jam and are inherently safe...best in .38-special or .357 magnum.

I was just checking and at the local auction there are several revolvers for sale. I know nothing about firearms so my goal is cheap and simple for a complete beginner at this point. Couple questions: Should a buy a cheapo revolver at the auction (several going for 60-100 bucks) or plunk down a larger chunk of change on a new weapon? (I’m on a limited budget)

You can get relatively inexpensive ones but I'd suggest Colt, Ruger, S&W or another name brand--they only increase in value over the years and are well-manufactured.

What sort of paperwork should I need? I haveno crimes, No felonies, legal resident, I even pay my taxes!

Depends on your state...I understand Kansas somewhat okay, though, owing to its Western heritage...

How does one go about learning how to use this properly? I know I’ll need training, what does this usually entail?

Your local community should have a firearms safety course, etc. through its parks and rec or something similar...check with them.

[calex59]

What state do you live in? The people selling the gun, and I would go with a new one, will know all the paperwork you need and they will help you fill it out. In most states you have to have at least a drivers license and in some states a hunting license or a safety course before you can buy. If you want a cheap revolver, a new one, go for either a Charter arms or a Taurus. Caliber for a beginner should be as small as possible but at the same time potent enough to put down an attacker. I would recommend a .357 magnum and fire .38 special ammo until you get used to the gun.

Going to any shooting range, which you can find on the net with a search, will put you in touch with instructors who can teach you how to shoot and the safety aspect of using firearms.

You can find out the laws of your particular state also by doing a google or some other search on the net. The main thing is, find a range and ask the people running it for advice, they usually are happy to help. Also, join the NRA, we need as many members as we can get.

[longtermmemmory]

There is an ORGY of Drive By Media anti-bill of rights feeding.

ISN’T INTERESTING THE ACLU DOES NOT OBJECT TO PRAYER IN SCHOOL SINCE IT IS AN ANTI-SECOND AMENDMENT ISSUE?

Perhaps this will turn out to be a wellstone style memorial.

[Will_Zurmacht]

Thanks much. Best I can tell is I simply need to be a KS resident and not a felon to purchase.
Now I’m gonna check into firearms safety course. Maybe friends will know where this can be done.
As for what’s on sale cheap this week in my burg..
Llama Super Comanche .44 mag revolver
Heritage Rough Rider .22LR revolver
Harrington and Richardson .38S&W
Hmm..

Although I’d love to buy the:
Ruger P90 .45 ACP pistol with two clips and holster for 350.00
but I won’t.

Thanks for the help. I’ll probably run into some folks at the auction who can fill me in on other stuff.

[Will_Zurmacht]

You know, I was just checkin and I can buy new for just a lil more money...!

[attackcartoons]

http://www.attackcartoons.com/article.php/20070416133437418

there’s a perverted glee on the left.

[Petronski]

GUN CONTROL IS TOUGH SELL IN CONGRESS

Yes, but Rudy is doggedly tireless and stubborn.

[facedown]

What’s makes me angry is that it is even considered.

[jonascord]

"Don't all handguns already require a permit?"

This is most likely the most popular single lie, and Urban Myth, ever uttered and maintained by the US Media. Despite what you hear, constantly, on the Idiot Box, you DO NOT NEED a "permit" or "license", in most states, to own or buy a hand gun. California, Massachusetts and New York being notable exceptions. Go to the Brady Bunch website and and the absolute horror just pours out of you screen and puddles on your desk top.

[xone]

S&W .38 Special or .357 Mag if you think you can move up. Training available ALL over, go to NRA.org for a site near you.

[Petruchio]

First step:

===> GET EDUCATED <===

The NRA offers many courses across the Country on all aspects of firearms. I would suggest basic handgun and Home Defense as 2 to take for starters. A firearms course will not only teach you safe handling of firearms, but also will expose you to the differences between a revolver and a pistol.

Then, and only then, you can make educated decisions on what will work best for you.

[Anti-MSM]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored the 1994 federal assault weapons ban that Congress allowed to expire in 2004, said in a statement that she believed the killings at Virginia Tech would "re-ignite the dormant effort to pass commonsense gun regulations in this nation."

Common sense to me would imply not treating normal Americans as criminals for wanting to bear arms and protect themselves. If someone had been carrying a gun yesterday, perhaps the perpetrator yesterday would have been stopped before he had finished killing over 30 people.

[TexasRepublic]

I highly recommend a revolver for a beginning shooter for a number of reasons: No safety to fumble with, simple and intuitive to use, can fire a wide variety of slugs without jamming, very reliable overall. While a revolver *usually* only hold six rounds, it is so reliable that you can count on those six shots; with a semi-auto pistol, jamming is more of a possibility. Visit some gun shows — great deals can be had on used Smith & Wesson revolvers. Buy a model that offers both single and double action triggers. Buy either a .357 magnum (also shoots milder .38 Special for practice) or a .44 magnum (also shoots milder .44 Special, which is what I prefer most).