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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kids who grow up in a house with guns are generally tought from an early age, gun safety and the proper use of a weapon. These are the people who should have CCPs.
Kids who were brought up in a Liberal household where guns were evil and unacceptable, will continue to be the victims.
72 posted on
04/18/2007 5:18:06 AM PDT by
wolfcreek
(DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The question is posed incorrectly. The question should be “should SOME students be ....”.
Omitting the word SOME makes the question ambiguous.
My answer is, Sure. If they have a permit and training and they are identified by a uniform of some kind. Typically, this would be a law-enforcement person taking classes.
Given the impetuousity of youth and the frequency of beer parties, I would not allow just any student to carry.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
They are already “allowed” by state law. It is Va Tech’s policy that prevents them from defending themselves on campus.
82 posted on
04/18/2007 5:37:40 AM PDT by
P8riot
(I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
It has become quite clear in some way shape or form a student will have to defend themselves before law enforcement gets there. These kids and they are still kids should be required to take defense classes, and have drills for disaster. Since 911 I thought the country especially the educated colleges had wised up. I guess I was wrong.If drills to prevent this from happening can save one more life or many more fine by me. Also a legal concealed carry permit for a gun is ok by me. I hope I never in my life time see the same thing happen at another college because they were too liberal to pay attention and learn a lesson.
88 posted on
04/18/2007 5:45:39 AM PDT by
betsyross1776
(BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I still think about a criminal named Ferguson who shot and killed a number of people on a Long Island Commuter train. For No Reason, other than he was a loon.
If another person was armed and on the train we might have stopped the bloodshed and wouldn’t be feeding and housing this filthy Beast.
We , allowed this barbarian, to be his own Lawyer at his trial.
Doubling the hurt and Insult.
I’ll go with arming legitimate citizens everywhere in the U.S.A.
92 posted on
04/18/2007 5:48:35 AM PDT by
chatham
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Almost every college that has looked at this issue feels they can do a better job of protecting their students by banning guns on campus and taking responsibility to provide good security,".....
Any college or university that publicly states that as fact, should be sued out of existence any time anything, and I do mean anything in the way of violence (and that does include assault, forcible rape, etc.)happens on campus.
The only one who can protect you ..... is YOU!
Absolutely no campus, no city, no suburb, no rural farm community, has enough police to "protect" it's citizens.
Should the police accidentally come across a violent act or crime in progress, they have the power to stop it but every other time, they come upon crime scenes after the fact has occurred.
The police simply cannot protect before hand, nor do the mere fact that they have a presence on campus, deter an individual armed and intent on harming another individual.
98 posted on
04/18/2007 6:05:39 AM PDT by
zerosix
To: Cincinatus' Wife
gun-control advocates will be lining up with members of the academic community in opposing an expanded presence of guns on campus. The same people who created that policy for Virginia Tech in the first place.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
What’s next? we should put the newly formed government controlled CSA (Campus Security Agency) in charge of campus security, have routine searches, ban liquids and matches and place “Student marshals” in most classes like the airlines do.
/sarcasm
138 posted on
04/18/2007 7:16:08 AM PDT by
CJ Wolf
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Should students be allowed to carry concealed weapons? I just checked the 2nd Amendment and could not find any language that disqualifies college students.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Should students be allowed to carry concealed weapons?Not only yes, but HELL YES!
150 posted on
04/18/2007 7:26:01 AM PDT by
Just another Joe
(Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Of course college students, like other adults should be allowed to carry. The police at VA Tech couldn't protect them. In our country, personal security is and should be, a matter of individual responsibility.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
154 posted on
04/18/2007 7:28:12 AM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
A better question:
Should students be disarmed and defenseless against attackers?
To: Cincinatus' Wife
If you were a college student who would I rather sit next to, a petite co-ed with a permit to carry and a 38 snub nose in her purse, or a 180 lb weightlifter with a give peace a chance t-shirt? Ahhhhh wait a minute the petite co-ed is kinda ugly, can’t let your hormones sway your vote.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
After the current news conference by law enforcement, I can only say in any way a student can feel and are safe yes they can. Reason did you see the VT news conference this morning and the troubling signals this student sent out? He was admitted to a mental health facility. He stalked two women. The college students in his dorm reported him. Since society says they must help themselves, then we as society must do everything to keep our children safe. Parents send their kids to college to get an education and have a much better life then parents have had . Since our laws will not protect them , we either have to change the mental health laws , or protect our kids by other means. I prefer to hospitalize these poor kids who are sick before another heart break occurs.If the laws would let the people who know these kids, love them and know they need help , get them into hospitals before this happens again I would be very happy.
217 posted on
04/18/2007 8:21:40 AM PDT by
betsyross1776
(BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I personally don't think students should be allowed to carry on campus. Too many are not mature enough to handle a deadly weapon. There's a very good reason why car insurance rates are astronomical for males aged 18-25.
A happy medium, I think, would be to allow any concealed-carry permit-holding faculty member to carry.
221 posted on
04/18/2007 8:26:44 AM PDT by
jude24
(Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We have access to these weapons, and there are people who get angry, and with that access they will use them," says Jim Sollo, vice president of Virginians Against Handgun Violence, a group with 800 members that advocates gun-control measures. "I fear that we will continue to have mass shootings here in the United States." Hey, dummass, answer this.
If it's against the law to shoot someone and people still do it, why do you think that, if it's against the law to have a gun, those same people will obey that law?
245 posted on
04/18/2007 9:23:59 AM PDT by
HIDEK6
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The campus police should be allowed to carry weapons. Also better surveillance of the campus should be a must. CCTV placement throughout the campus and buildings.
263 posted on
04/18/2007 9:47:39 AM PDT by
Doc91678
(Doc91678)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
“But gun advocate Mr. Van Cleave contends that control is not the solution. “Gun control only works with the good guys,” he says. “Good people obey the laws. The people you’re worried about don’t. I don’t think [the campus shooting] is going to bode well for gun control.”
Van Cleave is right on target. In this case it’s too bad a “good guy” wasn’t armed to take out the demented perp. One thing I have a problem with; is why a non-American citizen can buy a gun legally. The constitution should not pertain to non-citizens.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
268 posted on
04/18/2007 9:52:39 AM PDT by
aruanan
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Almost every college that has looked at this issue feels they can do a better job of protecting their students by banning guns on campus and taking responsibility to provide good security," says Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington. "I'm not sure any campus would like to advertise, 'Come to our campus. We have more guns per capita than any other campus.' "
I bet those schools would have, over the next few years, like cities and towns that have concealed carry laws, lower crime than those that are "gun free."
269 posted on
04/18/2007 9:57:29 AM PDT by
aruanan
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