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To: Dead Corpse
If you want me to stop yelling at you, then stop supporting such an idiotic policy.

I'm not supporting or failing to support the policy. I'm discussing how to carry safely and legally in the current reality we live in, not in your potential dream world once you change a lot of longstanding laws and cultural norms. Discussing how to cope with the real situation we live in is the extent of my responsibility. Yours, if you choose to, can be to change the landscape.

146 posted on 04/18/2007 7:22:53 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

If you really want instruction on how to safetely carry, I gave it to you above. So that’s a moot point now.


147 posted on 04/18/2007 7:23:44 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm discussing how to carry safely and legally in the current reality we live in,...

Sounds an aweful lot like the same thought preocesses that anti-gunners use to drum up hysteria over localities loosening their carry laws. "There will be blood in the streets!" "It'll be the Wild West with shootouts at high noon!"

Never happens. Just making the decision to carry legally shows a level of maturity that belies your supposition. More folks carrying legally lessens the Sheeples fear over armed law abiding citizens.

This is a good thing and one we should be advocating more of.

159 posted on 04/18/2007 7:29:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Dead Corpse; Tolsti
[Dead Corpse says]You [HairOfTheDog] are the one advocating restricting an adults Rights.

I guess I need to see where HairOfTheDog advocated all the restrictions the rest are saying she advocated. I think you are entirely misunderstanding her point.

[HairOfTheDog says]... choosing to carry a concealed weapon in a classroom situation does carry a certain responsibility to do it right...

How can that be controversial? The general principle is "Being free implies being responsible". As this applies to firearms it implies all the safety rules including maintaining control of your firearm -- NOT leaving it in the rest room or in your car if you're going to some idiotic place where you're not allowed to carry.

It also means war-gaming: How can you avoid situations where you might have to draw it. What are you going to do if you DO draw it? Are you ready to see pieces of skull and scalp hit the wall in back of your assailant? Are you ready to go to jail and to be charged and then sued?

Do you know how a serious adrenaline dump affects you. I know from experience that when the fur is about to fly I lose my voice, so I practice saying things that I might have to say the next time. Have you worked through how to avoid drawing your weapon too late? What do you say to someone who seems threatening but is, say 25 feet away? What do you say when that person laughs at you and mocks you to your friends for being paranoid? And then calls the cops and reports you for brandishing?

Have you decided how to handle the problem of carrying and drinking?

This is not about who should be permitted to exercise the right to bear arms. It's about a culture which alternates between swagger and responsibility-shedding dependency when what we need is a thoughtful assessment of the truly dreadful possibilities implied and to some extent embraced when one pops the p239 into the Milt Sparks and saunters out the door.

290 posted on 04/18/2007 2:02:39 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus loves me, this I know, for his Mother tells me so. (and the Church and the Bible too))
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