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To: kinoxi
I do not see this as a gun control debate, but more of a debate on how to ensure the public safety without infringing on personal rights. It is a complicated issue.

Should guns be carried in schools? No. A school should be a place of higher education. As we have seen by recent tragedies, schools can and are also turned into scenes of carnage by those who are not responsible enough to have a gun. Also, what does the property owner think of guns on his/her property? I support the 2nd, but I refuse to have a stranger on my property with a weapon.

What to do? If metal detectors are installed in the entrance to every public venue, then we may violate the right to unreasonable search and seizure. "New" gun control laws have proven ineffective time and time again. Security inspections and guards are also lax (think TSA) or they can be overly restrictive.

Gun classes and registrations/certifications seem to have turned into another revenue enhancer for state governments. I ask myself, "After 20+ years of carrying a weapon in the military, why would I want to pay somebody to teach me how to handle a weapon again? (I imagine many LEO's/gun collectors/shooting enthusiasts would feel the same way.) Drivers are licensed regularly, yet every year, many die in automobile accidents.

Perhaps gun safety should be a required part of the cirriculum of our schools. When I was in junior high, we had a very popular class which taught gun safety and boating safety. The teacher was also our local Boy Scout Troop leader. It seemed to be effective, but things are different in Small Town USA, and we can't go back to the "good old days".

This is one of those issues that will defy correction. It's the proverbial double-edged sword, where any course of action will violate the rights of others. Limits have already been set, yet there is always a portion of society that will ignore those limits.

/useless reflective thoughts

My condolences go to those who have lost loved ones.

23 posted on 04/18/2007 3:25:30 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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Oboy-after reading some of the posts above, I think I’ll slink away and find a pair of fire-proof trousers....


26 posted on 04/18/2007 3:31:17 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: Sarajevo

Should guns be carried in schools? No. A school should be a place of higher education.


Why should one be stripped of the human right of self-defense in order to learn?

What is wrong with happy, healthy, lawful, armed people peacefully interacting in all aspcets of life?


85 posted on 04/18/2007 5:41:22 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Sarajevo
Should guns be carried in schools? No. A school should be a place of higher education. As we have seen by recent tragedies, schools can and are also turned into scenes of carnage by those who are not responsible enough to have a gun. Also, what does the property owner think of guns on his/her property? I support the 2nd, but I refuse to have a stranger on my property with a weapon.

Let me take this in two seperate instances.

Should guns be carried in schools? No. A school should be a place of higher education. As we have seen by recent tragedies, schools can and are also turned into scenes of carnage by those who are not responsible enough to have a gun.

So, only those who are NOT responsible enough to carry a gun should have one.
I mean, this type of person is not going to care about the law, whether buying, or carrying, or shooting someone else for no reason.
You have just disarmed all the responsible, law abiding, able to take out the irresponsible citizens.
The shooter now has a free fire zone just as it happened at Virginia Tech.

Also, what does the property owner think of guns on his/her property? I support the 2nd, but I refuse to have a stranger on my property with a weapon.

If it's a private university you have a point. If it's a public university it is owned and operated by the state. Are you saying that the state has the authority to over ride the Constitution of the United States and ignore the 2nd Amendment?
The is a difference between private property and publicly owned property.
The state should have no recourse but to allow carrying a weapon unless there are specific threats to harm or kill another. (As in a courtroom when threats have been made, possibility of assassination of a public official, etc)
Private property is a different issue.

172 posted on 04/18/2007 7:42:06 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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