1 posted on
04/20/2007 7:12:37 AM PDT by
presidio9
To: presidio9
LOL. I thought the freeper conventional wisdom that it was people who killed people.
Guns don’t and they are inanimate objects, so how could abstractions like “nutty gun laws” kill people?
2 posted on
04/20/2007 7:16:32 AM PDT by
dmz
To: presidio9
The gun laws didn’t cause this; the laws that allow wackos like this guy to roam freely caused it.
3 posted on
04/20/2007 7:16:55 AM PDT by
NRA1995
(Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
To: presidio9
If I put on my memory cap, I think I can recall that it was the ACLU and the lefties who BITTERLY fought to keep ALL mental records under lock and key, in every circumstance.
More stupidity and unintended circumstance from the left. You reap what you sew. But I'm sure it's Bush's fault.
4 posted on
04/20/2007 7:17:31 AM PDT by
Al Gator
(Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
To: presidio9
Actually there are already laws that prohibit the sale of weapons to mentally ill people. Cho was mentally ill but no one reported him, it was a lapse of those in authority, not the results of fewer laws. How are we supposed to tell if someone is mentally ill? Do we require test for all future gun buyers? This would be one way to enact dejure gun control, pronounce all candidates for firearm purchases as insane. We don't need to go down that road, we only need to keep our governments face out of our business and we will be ok.
The fact is, there was a law that helped this tragedy along, and that was the rule that no one could carry concealed weapons on the campus, if one armed student had been around, or if the campus police would have been armed this whole tragedy might have been averted, and almost certainly would have ended with far fewer deaths, to proclaim and area a gun free zone is simply signing people's death warrents in advance.
6 posted on
04/20/2007 7:18:59 AM PDT by
calex59
To: presidio9
The writer doesn't know what they're talking about. The article is wrong almost everyhere. Cho was adjudicated as a danger to himself, which is a fed disqualifier. VA law is less strict than fed law in this matter. Per 28USC25.4, the feds only expect the States will voluntarily submit info to the DOJ that pertains to info regarding the disqualifiers contained in 18USC922. In this case the court record would have disqualified CHo from purchasing the gun, as per 18USC922(g)(4). VA is a State that simply does not volunteer that info as requested. The matter and relevant ATF comment can be found in and around
this post.
8 posted on
04/20/2007 7:31:02 AM PDT by
spunkets
("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
To: presidio9
This article is just plain wrong about how there are no standards... in the laws or in VT's policies.
This shooter lied on his application to buy the weapon regarding psychiatric treatment. Law of course could be circumvented by the criminal, but, the law did address it.
The judge who did not commit the shooter erred in not doing so. The law allowed for it, but the enforcement was lax. Not the law's fault.
The policy manual in VT probably has dozens of things in it about how stalking, etc., makes expulsion an option... again, lax enforcement. Not a problem with lack of policy. It was lack of enforcement.
The shooter had acted in a threatening manner to other students, and had even set fire to his room.
Again, the rules and the law support expulsion for his transgressions.
The whole thing was the shooter's doing, BUT lack of enforcement of previously existing, reasonable laws, would have made this episode much less likely.
The kid would have been expelled, gone home, and been working in the dry cleaning store under the supervision of parents.
The shooter, abetted by PC, liberal culture, and HIPPA, and LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS AND RULES killed those 32 people.
9 posted on
04/20/2007 7:33:00 AM PDT by
caddie
To: presidio9
There are many Cho Seung-huis among us. That is the unpleasant fact.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And that is why you need to do away with , "Gun Free Zones."
There is no such thing.
This trope has it all wrong, bass ackwards.
The NY Daily News obviously knows nothing of American history, the right of self defense and the 2nd amendment.
10 posted on
04/20/2007 7:35:21 AM PDT by
Candor7
To: presidio9
But he was close. An acquaintance who feared Cho was suicidal called police, and cops were concerned enough that they brought him before a judge - who likewise sensed something amiss and ordered him psychiatrically evaluated. "Presents an imminent danger to himself," the judge found. But a doctor prescribed outpatient treatment instead of committing him. And that's what let this maniac arm himself. I wonder where are the calls to have this doctor's license suspended, and where are the civil lawsuits against him for mis-diagnosing such an "imminent danger."
Where are the calls to provide exceptions to the HIPAA laws that prevents such medical information from being shared with the FBI NICS database.
No, let's just ban all guns and we'll be as safe as Washington, DC.
12 posted on
04/20/2007 7:53:54 AM PDT by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: presidio9
18 posted on
04/20/2007 9:16:42 AM PDT by
PsyOp
(Any dangerous spot is tenable if brave men will make it so. - John F. Kennedy.)
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson