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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Paperdoll
You still do not define what socialism IS, trying to focus instead on what it does. For the definitional discussion see # 163 and # 227.
241 posted on 04/21/2007 7:44:28 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Jim Robinson
"...Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party? Do you really expect me to do that?"

Yes you will. The Rudybots demand it. Rudy will be us a glorious new world. You have not choice you must vote for Ruuuuuuuudy


242 posted on 04/21/2007 7:44:45 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDeuce = John Browning's gift to freedom))
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To: Jim Robinson

Mr. Robinson,

First off, THANK YOU, or the forum you have provided us, the conservatives in this country.

I hear and understand the concerns and ‘anger’ you have expressed about the possible ‘Giuliani’ nomination. I agree with them.

I hold this site as a gift.

I had hoped that W would move the country closer to being what is was originally intended to be, and used to be. Domestically, W has been a disaster. Foriegn policy wise, he’s pretty much spot-on.

Social Security reform-failed.
Reduction of Government-Failed
Border control-Failed
Return of education to the States:abolition of DOEd-failed(non-started?)
Prescription Drug Benefit?- Well, that flew. The Lefties hated it because it didn’t go FAR ENOUGH.

So, should we now support Giuliani, just to keep the HildyBeast out of office? Rudy is NOT a conservative. With all due respect to those on FR the support him, he is just NOT someone that should carry our banner forward.

Who? I hope Fred Thompson formalizes his candidacy. I will support that with time and treasure. At the same time I hope that more REAL conservatives will speak out, unafraid of PC-constraints. Unafraid of the MSM/DBM/lefty media. And go for office.

I agree Jim, and FReepers, do not support Rudy. He is NOT of us. He will not move us towards our goal. He will, I think, betray us.

Just my 0.02 to the founder of the finest website on the planet.


243 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:09 PM PDT by RoadGumby
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To: Man50D

What are you talking about? Socons are the ones who are fighting hardest against faux conservatives like rudy.


244 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: potlatch

[But I would vote for a trained chimpanzee if it meant keeping Hillary out of the White House.]
= = =

me too

= = =

me three.


245 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: veronica

That’s the right approach, Veronica. This thread is just bait to ban people.


246 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by Peach
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Some Freepers in the Giuliani camp are quick to play the victim card, when in reality, they give as good as they get.

If Hillary becomes president because Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee, it will be the liberal Republicans’ fault for not nominating someone who motivates the conservative base.


247 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:26 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Jim Robinson

And what if Romney becomes the head of the Republican party?

A long shot, I know, but where do you stand on his candidacy?


248 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:11 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I finally see the dawn arrivin' I see beyond the road I'm drivin' Far away and left behind)
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To: Peach
Mia T was banned

WooHoo!

No More Spam!


249 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:30 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: muleskinner

I can’t believe it took nine years either.


250 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:52 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Sorry for the doubledouble postpost.

Somehow, I don't think you are sorry enough. ;O)

251 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:56 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Pan_Yan

You pick the candidate in the primaries that most closely resembles your views. If you think Rudy will be the best President, vote for him. But you are voting for him based on electability you are going to lose every time.
***Good point. Well said, worth repeating.


252 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:57 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Quix

Bump!!


253 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:00 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Luke21

Sad that posting the truth about Reagan is considered anti-Reagan. Ya’ll have hysterics when I remind freepers that Reagan signed an amnesty bill.


254 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:13 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

Buh^ump.


255 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:16 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rottndog
The GOP enthusiastically supported Arnold....and now Rudy’s the front runner....
I don’t thing the party has learned the lesson of 2006 yet.

That's some serious stuff you're talking there. I supported Arnold, but remember his "Hillary" was a guy named Cruz Bustamonte, a MeCHa racist wingnut liberal; the prospect of Bustamonte as Governor of California during the second Dubya election, was pretty ugly. No matter what the McClintock folks tell you, it was either Cruz or Arnold.

Arnold's still better than Cruz, but that ain't saying much. I just can't respect the intellectual acumen of anybody who buys into minimum wage hikes and global warming environmentalism. Give me a break.

A consolation is that Cruz would have been worse, especially with regard to illegal immigration and racial favoritism.

Arnold "Never Trust an Austrian" Schwarzenegger is only governor of California. But he's all it takes to tell me that Giulini as President of the United States would be a bad risk. Seriously, I think about the opposition, no matter which candidate, Gore, Hillary, Obama?? Edwards? They are all of them as worthless as paper towels and whoever won would become the most loathed president in history. They're frauds and people would find out fast.

Rudy would be worse. He's not a fraud, he's mostly liberal. He'd do what Jim Robinson eloquently describes -- deeply erode the main-message Republican values. They're values that appeal to thousands of Democrats who don't know that they're really Republicans, but they know what they like when the see it. Republicans don't need to go left to win.

256 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:19 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Do you really expect me to do that?”

Um... No.

What do I win?


257 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:25 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Jim Robinson; rottndog

What conserns me is how many so called conservatives have bought into the baseless idea that only Rudy can win, when in reality, he is the LEAST able to do so. If we run a left wing Republican against a left wing Democrat, the conservatives will not vote, and the Reagan Democrats will vote their own ticket.


258 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Enosh; Mia T
Mia T was banned

WooHoo!

No More Spam!


I think that would be news to Mia....
259 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:38 PM PDT by rottndog (American First, Conservative Second, Republican Increasingly Reluctantly...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen!


260 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:39 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Of course I'm a parent. Who else would have a Winnie The Pooh shot glass?)
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