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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: tsowellfan
The lesson to be learned here is when you make a gaffe, the last thing you should do is go on an apology tour. That pretty much seals your fate. Apologize once or twice to the recipient of the gaffe(and no one else) and then go on the offensive if the attacks persist.
181 posted on 04/21/2007 7:30:53 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Peach
Read today’s threads. Far more concern about guns than abortion. Read this week’s threads. The same. You are creating a straw man. Abortion is one issue. Giuliani agrees with the conservative wing of this party on next to nothing.

You are promoting a liberal’s liberal. He’s an east coast metrosexual cross dresser. Oly Snowe is probably more of a conservative than your friend, Rudy. The only way I want him inside the White House is taking the tour with other civilians.

I don’t need to bring up abortion, and I can spend the rest of the day telling you why Giuliani is the pits.

182 posted on 04/21/2007 7:31:07 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Godebert
I support McClintock until the last minute when it became painfully obvious he didn't have the support of the voters. Then, as a dutiful broken glass Republican, I pulled the lever for Arnie. Fat lot of good it did me. Broken glass Republican no more. Tired of crawling on bloodied stumps.
183 posted on 04/21/2007 7:31:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: quidnunc
Like it or not, the candidates preferred by this board — Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter, et al — are certain losers.

If Reagan can win 49 states, why can't Fred?

184 posted on 04/21/2007 7:31:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: flashbunny; MurryMom

Murry Mom’s account is still open.

Sweet!


185 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: infidel29
do you forfeit your duty and honor and stay home instead of voting, thus clearing the path for a marxist

I don't think claiming Jim would forfeit his duty and honor if he refuses to vote for Rudy is a good idea, or a fair statement. The man has earned the right to not vote for people he finds offensive to his principles, and you have not earned the right to question his commitment to duty and honor.

Frankly, I'm surprised you survived.

186 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:17 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Paperdoll
Good for you! I'm voting for the Republican nominee!


187 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:26 PM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: veronica

“Well, if Jim wants this to be a “Rudy-free-site” or an “anti-Rudy-site” - he should state that policy and apply it.”

If you had been reading any of his threads then you would know that he HAS stated that policy, and IS applying it.

It’s been the stated policy of FR from the beginning.

CONSERVATISM!! period!


188 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:26 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Luke21
He’s an east coast metrosexual cross dresser.

Exhibit A of what constitutes intelligent conversation these days.

189 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:47 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

“You’re delusional. Rudy doesn’t go to the right even 10% of the time.”

So I must conclude that for you, national security-going against islamofascism is below 10 percent?


190 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:48 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Kevmo
quidnunc

This account has been banned or suspended.

Oh gee whiz. Another long time favorite of mine is gone. Hee hee.

191 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:50 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: beancounter13
Personally, I think this country just may have to burn before it gets better:

Yeah, it's always good strategy to let your enemies win by walking of the field. Then they get to set the rules for next time around. Oh Wait! Look whose in control of the Senate and House now.

192 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:54 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Jim Robinson

Bottom line, Rudy is a survivable presidency for the US. A democrat with a probable demcrat house and senate is not.

If Rudy wins the primary, then you must support him.

If Rudy wins the primary, and you support the democrat or an unelectable 3rd party, then I am out of here and probably more than just me because we love the US, and opposing Rudy after the primary is supporting the destruction of the US as we know it.


193 posted on 04/21/2007 7:32:55 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

You and your compatriots on this site have done a lot to effect the political process in this country for good. I’m truly grateful to you for that.

Stick to your guns, pray for God’s help and don’t back down.

Not now. Not ever.

194 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:09 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Peach

Glad you like it. It’s also true.


195 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:24 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I agree with you that a president's policies are the most important thing. I'm watching this nomination process as a bystander so far, not a committed supporter of one candidate.

First off I observe Rudy running ahaead of the others in opinion polls of REPUBLICANS right now. Unless someone else beats him among republicans he will get nominated. Personally, I would prefer to see Thompson win but he might not.

IF Rudy is nominated, allowing a Hilary or Obama to win, possibly with a dem Congress, is national suicide. You will get pure pro abortion, etc policies PLUS no sensible war on terror.

So if Rudy gets nominated I will vote for him. For the war, also because he promises to nominate conservative judges. And a reason seldom mentioned: He is strong against crime. Turning the US Attorneys over to Hilary would be a disaster. I'm not pushing Rudy, just explaining why I would vote for him IF it is Hilary vs. Rudy. But I admit that for conservatives it is very strange to see Rudy running strong in republican polls.

196 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:42 PM PDT by Williams
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To: All

Dang, we got ourselves a bruhaha.

All we need now to confirm it is a Rudybot poster or two to write some sanctimonious bs and announce they are leaving because the Freeper board is becoming...er...umm...
uhum...conservative.


197 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:57 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: FreeReign

Fred would have a decent chance in the general election - Hilary and Obama are not strong candidates - which is why I strongly suspect Edwards gets the nomination.

Gingrich, Hunter, et. al. wouldn’t have the slightest chance.


198 posted on 04/21/2007 7:34:00 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Jim Robinson

“Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?”

Free Republic might, but I never will.


199 posted on 04/21/2007 7:34:01 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Jim Robinson; veronica; flashbunny; CharlesWayneCT

I just posted this but earlier I’ll move it to a more current thread

I don’t think it will be one of the dim leaders. I think it’s becoming clear that hillaries negatives are too high and the electorate won’t go for a lightweight like Obama.
Look for Gore to step in later this summer. “for the good of the party”. He will be able to unify the moonbat wing and the rank and file....the whole dim party. Also there will be no Nader. Remember he already won the poler vote acting like like a 2nd grade teacher. I watched 10 minutes of his movie last nite and though I disagree with it I was impressed how warm and polished he came off. He’s a LOT BETTER then he was in 2000.
He’s gonna be really tough to beat. I’m not sure Rudy...Thompson..or Romney can beat him. As for the rest of the Repub nominees....forgetaboutit.

I like all three of our guys.

What worries me about Romney is that he’s too slick by a half but I’m open.....

What worries me about Thompson (if he runs} does he have the fire to take on Gore? Also does he have the temperament to take on his own party? I worry that he could be another W. Say all the right things but be too much of a “good ol boy” and not be enough of a an asskicker to really slap around his former senate colleagues regarding earmarks...entitlement reform...tax reform...energy policy...the border...tort reform all the things that W with all three branches of government failed miserably on.
Though I’m also open.

Rudy does have that temperament. He slapped around the establishment in NYCity and it’s in his nature to do it again in Washington. I’m not worried about Rudy on the border the chaos down there should inflame his law and order sensibilities and I think he would clamp down. Currently he is the only one talking about are insane tax code and considering a flat tax....wonderful. He also brings up vouchers...great. He also talks about drilling in the gulf when all the other pols are worring about losing FLA...more great

That leaves guns and abortion that is judges. Rudy knows that to accomplish cleaning up our fiscal mess and waging war on our Islamic enemies not to mention holding off the dims and the MSM he will need the base including the socons firmly in his camp. I would expect him to give on those....

If he tried to pull something like nominating a Souter it would ignite a firestorm that would make the Miers pick look like nothing. He is not stupid enough to take on his own base when his plate will already be full.

If someone would like to discuss this with me instead of spamming me or insulting me I’d like that.



200 posted on 04/21/2007 7:34:40 PM PDT by Blackirish
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