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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: M Kehoe

Really? I doubt it’ll get to 6,000 by Friday.


4,801 posted on 04/23/2007 9:35:24 AM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: Paperdoll

“Whatever happened to all those FReeper Conservatives?!”

Some of us are still here.


4,802 posted on 04/23/2007 9:35:52 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Bigh4u2

Oh man, I didn’t see lightning in the weather forecast! BWAHAHAHA!!!!


4,803 posted on 04/23/2007 9:36:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Just sayin

Sorry for the typos in my last post. I get aggrivated when people straight up lie about things I write. My bad.


4,804 posted on 04/23/2007 9:36:20 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: Just sayin
You bet I did, and then I went on to show how choice can be respected that does not terminate a pregnancy with the result of ending a life. A choice that gives both sides of this argument what they seek. Care to disagree with me there?

The ONLY choice the pro-aborts care about is that infanticide continues.

Persuit of happiness? You mean like not being pregnant? That kind of happiness?

Huh? If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she should keep her legs closed.

The fact you say I advocate taking a life PROVES AGAIN that you are NOT reading the post and you are diectly telling an UNTRUTH. So Stop your LYING.

You said that women should be allowed to "choose" abortion.

4,805 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Very well said.


4,806 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Just sayin

I read what you said and found it intriguing.

How do you terminate a ‘pregnancy’ without terminating a ‘life’.

The answer is. You can’t. You can only terminate a pregnancy with a birth, or an abortion.

There is no other way to do it. Other than a woman not becoming pregnant in the first place.


4,807 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:36 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: LS

Yet NONE of you can come up with any real evidence that Giuliani will fight terror any better than the other GOP candidates, except that Giuliani did some grandstanding.

This is not a situation that policing can clean up like squeegee men. This is a MILITARY situation.


4,808 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:41 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: b4its2late
Do the posts go that high?

If we end up with the liberal misfits, malcontents and Rudy-Tooters waving goodbye as they stomp on over to Wideawakes, the numbers can go as high as they need to go, IMHO. I fully expect this thread to make it to at LEAST 6000 within the next 24 hours.

There are plenty of liberal scum out there that have yet to raise their mug-ugly heads.
4,809 posted on 04/23/2007 9:38:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: LS
As for "dividers," you're so clueless as to be reprehensible. I was actively campaigning for real conservatives when you weren't even on FR.

I am so humbled.

FWIW, your writings were being extolled by a poster upthread who agreed with every word that Jim Robinson wrote at the top of the thread.

What the heck are we arguing about?

4,810 posted on 04/23/2007 9:39:53 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Just sayin
I wrote a WHOLE lot more than that partner.

I don't care what else you wrote, you wrote this:

Do you agree or disagree that a person can be 100% opposed to Abortion as it pertains to their own choices and still understand that everyone else's choices are their own to make and to be accountable for? Do you agree or disagree that removing choice, in general, is a bad thing?

This is the same thing that ever abortion advocate has said for 34 years, the net result has been the loss of 50 MILLION LIVES.

4,811 posted on 04/23/2007 9:41:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kellynch

Well, I never said he could, so I don’t know what you are blathering about.


4,812 posted on 04/23/2007 9:42:27 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: LexBaird

I understand there is no way to dothis currently. I addressed that point when I talked about organs. Was that not sci fi speculation at one time too? Indeed it was.

WHy is it too late? Because you say so?

It seems that the reason to oppose abortion as it stands is life, Once again i will state I agree with that position.

If life is maintained, where then is the opposition? It seems that the reason would then change and become that an unborn must remain and be carried to term where it began.

Then one must admit that is the true goal now. Fine if it is, but it should be admitted.


4,813 posted on 04/23/2007 9:43:55 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson; Cold Heat
No, it didn't.

This upcoming election, by my estimates, will be about citizens voting "pocket-book" issues.

As a poster most astutely observed up this thread (para) Californian's contribute the most money to FR. Is this not a pocketbook assertion?

Additionally, this is Mr. Robinson's forum (and he is in California) -- his rules are the rules of the house.

You say, and if Mr. Robinson agrees that Cold Heat's post constituted an absolute "certain defeat" for "conservatives", then, I suppose those are the definition of terms as to how the "house" is ruling, why you pinged Mr. Robinson to my post -- to point out Cold Heat's and my posts. Or just mine. You are vague on this point.

4,814 posted on 04/23/2007 9:43:57 AM PDT by Alia
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To: EternalVigilance

Core principles are essential. It’s also essential to be realistic. Real conservatives know that they are not the only people in the process. They know that they need to work with others, whom they might not agree with 100%, in order to actually accomplish something.


4,815 posted on 04/23/2007 9:44:28 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: rob777

>Whatever happened to all those FReeper Conservatives?!<

>>Some of us are still here.<<

Whew! That’s a relief. :o)


4,816 posted on 04/23/2007 9:44:50 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Just sayin
OK, I read your post for a third time. I guess I committed the offense of disregarding your removing the fetus and placing it in some form of life sustaining environment as hokum sci fi.

Until, such time as this possibility exists, what is your response to your own question?

Even if such a procedure existed, do you think the pro abortion crowd would be happy with your idea?

4,817 posted on 04/23/2007 9:45:48 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!)
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To: wagglebee

There you go lying again. I presented an idea where no end of life occurs. So then, why do you keep saying that in relation to what I wrote?

A woman should kep her legs closed you say? Yeah, that’s right, a man plays no part in the process huh? Sheesh.

Post where I said a woman should be alloed to choose abortion. Copy it and paste it. Let’s see it.


4,818 posted on 04/23/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: Spiff

I think my post was pretty clear


4,819 posted on 04/23/2007 9:47:45 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Bigh4u2

Terminate the pregnancy in one female and continue it in another female or a lab. The termination of pregnancy was meant in relation to the female, not the unborn.


4,820 posted on 04/23/2007 9:47:49 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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