[joesbucks]

As I said, let a good, honest historian go through the records.

I am honest. I never claimed to be a historian.

Twenty years ago you would have never believed Jefferson probably had relations with Sally Hemmings. DNA testing has shown the liklihood otherwise. Some of these guys had dark sides along with their unique ability to forge a country and some pretty good starting point documents. They were overall largely good men they likely weren't saints.

[Jim Robinson]

Sheesh, if you believe any of that crap you’re not being honest. Get over it. He’s a blooming liberal. There’s no way you can defend his liberalness. It’s indefensible.

[Politicalmom]

Last I heard, that Sally Hemmings stuff was unsubstantiated garbage.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_19_17/ai_75021627

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b1e31964372.htm

[Hawk1976]

Jefferson had fifty male relatives in the state of Virginia, any of whom could have been the father. We essentially went from no chance to a 2% chance. I don’t take odds on a 2% chance.

[Albion Wilde]

Twenty years ago you would have never believed Jefferson probably had relations with Sally Hemmings. DNA testing has shown the liklihood otherwise. Some of these guys had dark sides along with their unique ability to forge a country and some pretty good starting point documents. They were overall largely good men they likely weren't saints.

I'm late getting into this massive thread, but let me point out to you that there is an enormous difference between a Founding Father having a homosexual fling or an abortion in his private life, but knowing that the behavior is wrong, or at least recognizing that the behavior wouldn't fly with most citizens — contrasted with today's leftists, who seek to redefine all wrong behavior as some sort of a "right" for some sort of an outgroup "victimized" by the Christian religion, or "discriminated against" by traditional Americans. There is a vast qualitative difference in these two positions.

By the way, there have been many reputable opinions put forth that Sally Hemmings' baby could have been fathered by Jefferson's young adult nephew, who lived at Monticello during the relevant time period. Not that the MSM would have emphasized this plausible explanation....