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To: Star Traveler
and he can’t get legislation through and has to fight public opinion

Good! We need less legislation, not more. If the President vetoed every bill across his desk for four years we would all be much better off.

And that means that the public is going to have a say in it — whether it be to go to war or to stay out of it. And if they don’t like the course of the war, they’ve also got a right to say, “Get out of there!”

I can only pray that foolish statements such as this fall on the deaf ears of a man of principle.

Your words are the same as the dumb-masses (mind how you say it) that protested Vietnam or even stormed "The Bastille" with red kerchiefs. I think you have lived in the Pacific Northwest to long. Move back to Oklahoma and get some grit. Visit Ft. Sill and see the "Molly Pitcher" sculpture on the battle monument. Think about courage in the face of battle, instead of recriminations in the face of cowardice and ineptitude. Stop thinking like a leftest whiner.

It matters not what a Private that couldn't fire her weapon while others died has to say. It matters less what the Communist shill Henry Waxman of Kalifornia has to say. Shout it from the mountaintop that those persons wish to bring our nation to ruin and destruction. If you believe their filth for one moment I don't think you belong on this forum.

Better still, you could enlist and learn for yourself or prove me wrong by your own experience.

139 posted on 04/25/2007 11:43:33 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

You said — “If the President vetoed every bill across his desk for four years we would all be much better off.”

He might have to do that. Of course, the Democrats would love that. It would make their job much easier...

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You said — “I can only pray that foolish statements such as this fall on the deaf ears of a man of principle.”

Well, such a man of principle has to get elected in the first place. And once elected, unless he likes the phrase “one-termer” — he has to get re-elected. And thus you encounter the “public”...

And in-between times, you encounter the legislators who are much more influenced by the public. And they will either make the President’s life hell or not. I’m afraid that without public support — you’re just nowhere...

Of course, the people who do run for elections already know this. So they’re already plugged into that idea, regardless of what you might say.

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You said — “Your words are the same as the dumb-masses (mind how you say it) that protested Vietnam or even stormed “The Bastille” with red kerchiefs. I think you have lived in the Pacific Northwest to long. Move back to Oklahoma and get some grit. Visit Ft. Sill and see the “Molly Pitcher” sculpture on the battle monument. Think about courage in the face of battle, instead of recriminations in the face of cowardice and ineptitude. Stop thinking like a leftest whiner.”

Well, I’ve been in Texas and Oklahoma for the last two years, and I’ve had plenty of opportunity to talk to quite a few around here. I’ve got plenty of relatives in Oklahoma, with which I’m engaged vigoursly at times. I’m currently in Texas right now. You may not be aware of how many Democrats, by the way, are in the Dallas/Forth Worth area. Certainly more than I thought existed.

And just for your information in Texas and Oklahoma, these opinions about the war aren’t as solid as you want or prefer to think. It’s soft, very soft. I ought to know, because I argue for the idea of hitting those Islamic terrorists hard where they’re at and I encounter a lot of opposition in these states.

I find myself arguing with quite a few people of apparently Democrat persuasion around here. It’s not a small group, that’s for sure.

The fact of the matter is, whether you like it or not, the support for the ongoing war in Iraq is simply evaporating. And it’s evaporating everywhere. In another year, it will be completely gone. About the only thing that will help it is another major Al Qaida attack. But, I don’t know anyone who wants to go out and encourage that, in order to garner support...

As far as “whining” — I say what I want to, when I want to and that’s just the way it goes. If you don’t like it, that’s just too bad...

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Then — “It matters not what a Private that couldn’t fire her weapon while others died has to say. It matters less what the Communist shill Henry Waxman of Kalifornia has to say. Shout it from the mountaintop that those persons wish to bring our nation to ruin and destruction. If you believe their filth for one moment I don’t think you belong on this forum.”

I don’t believe things according to preconceived political notions. I take the facts of whatever situation and evaluate it on its own. It seems prevalent on both sides of the political spectrum to accept or dismiss facts or truth on the basis of political expediency or whatever fits your case or the political argument of the day. That makes no difference to me. The only thing that makes a difference is what is right about a situation and what is wrong. And that involves telling the truth about it, too.

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Finally — “Better still, you could enlist and learn for yourself or prove me wrong by your own experience.”

If I were even inclined to try, I’d never get in, in a million years; they’d have me right back out the door. As far as learning, there are plenty of people who are willing to give testimony to their own experience. Oh..., wait..., I did hear about one recently — ah yes..., Jessica Lynch...

But, besides her, there are lots of others on both sides of the political spectrum. We can listen to them all and make our decisions. And from the looks of it, the public is in not too good of a mood about Iraq.

And whether I think that the Islamic terrorists should be fought where they’re at — the real facts of the matter, “on the ground”, here in the U.S. is that this battle is “going south” and in another year, it’s done for...


142 posted on 04/26/2007 12:25:59 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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