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1 posted on 05/01/2007 3:28:36 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Pharmboy; vzevm0ka
Proud bump.

Thanks for the article, TG.

2 posted on 05/01/2007 3:37:16 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Great place to visit this summer. And Pierce’s Barbeque is only 20 min. away.


3 posted on 05/01/2007 3:46:22 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Jeremiah Jr; Yehuda; Lijahsbubbe
colonists who set up camp along the James River on May 14, 1607...

Vayechi Yaakov [b'eretz goshen] ping.

4 posted on 05/01/2007 3:49:38 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

There is a Time Team special on Jamestown on UKs Channel 4 tonight. Would be worth streaming it from somewhere...


5 posted on 05/01/2007 4:11:46 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Thinkin' Gal
From this link...

'Invasion' vs. Celebration

....For the 400th anniversary of the Jamestown settlement, you'll hear a lot this summer about political correctness and very little about the courageous Christians who helped establish a nation of unparalleled liberty.

7 posted on 05/01/2007 4:20:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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"1607 marks the beginning of the English taking our land away from us," said Chief Bill Miles, who heads the Pamunkey Indian tribe in Virginia, which existed when the Jamestown settlers arrived and whose members have refused to take part in the 400th anniversary festivities.

For the record, the Pamunkey were, at the time, part of the Powhatan Chiefdom and seat of power for Powhatan, who ruled most of what is now Virginia with terror attacks, intimidation and high taxes on foodstuffs, tools and other resources. Women from other tribes were kidnapped and forced into marriage with Powhatan in his effort to unify the tribes. When the Chesapeake tribe in southeastern Virginia refused to join the Chiefdom, Powhatan had them wiped out.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. A more powerful tribe arrived.

8 posted on 05/01/2007 4:24:39 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

When the English landed at Jamestown they quickly moved inland to do work that the natives refused to do! Because of this action we have the most wonderful nation on GOD’S GREEN EARTH!


9 posted on 05/01/2007 4:40:47 AM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Pat Robertson just made a full length movie about this called First Landing. I saw some of it yesterday. Well made, entertaining, and very informative. If public schools would show this half as much as they show Al Gore’s pile of slop, a climate of hope, instead of fear, would create a much more healthy and productive place of learning.

http://www.firstlandingthemovie.com/


10 posted on 05/01/2007 4:41:45 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

We’d like to welcome y’all to Vajenya, specially during this time. This is the real birthplace of the United States of America.


11 posted on 05/01/2007 4:48:49 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Many of the native americans were brutal, tribalistic, slave taking, in some cases, cannibals who spent most of their time killing each other.


12 posted on 05/01/2007 4:59:38 AM PDT by tkathy
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“The Jamestown colony, located in the eastern state of Virginia and generally upstaged in the nation’s memory by the Mayflower pilgrims who arrived to Plymouth, Massachusetts, 13 years later,”

I am eternally amazed at how many people, groups, institutions, books, tv programs, etc., etc., repeat that American began with the first Americans and the first Thanksgiving and the first everything else in Mass.


15 posted on 05/01/2007 5:17:13 AM PDT by RayStacy
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To: Thinkin' Gal

The local rag, the Virginia Pilot, rarely even mentions this event.

Wierd.


16 posted on 05/01/2007 6:00:44 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (HONK IF YOU'VE SACKED TROY SMITH.)
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Of the estimated 15,000 American Indians who lived in the area near the English settlement in 1607, all but about 1,500 died within a century, most from disease or in battle with the settlers."

So there were some 1,500 Indians who were 100 years or older in 1707 in that part of Virginia? Impressive. None of the settlers lived so long (most of them had short life expectancies).

Powhatan could have wiped out the Jamestown colony at the outset but thought the English would be useful to him in his wars with other Indian tribes. Powhatan's brother later did launch a massacre which tried to exterminate the English settlers.

17 posted on 05/01/2007 6:04:49 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Thinkin' Gal
This subject always makes me think of this poem:

Peregrine White
And Virginia Dare
Were the first real Americans
Anywhere.

Others might find it
Strange to come
Over the ocean
To make a home.

England and memory
Left behind - -
But Virginia and Peregrine
Didn't mind.

One of them born
On Roanoke,
And the other cradled
In Pilgrim oak.

the rest of the poem here

32 posted on 05/01/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Abe Lnicoln put the nation’s birth somewhat later, i.e., “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

Jamestown, represented colonization of North America by Great Britain.


40 posted on 05/01/2007 8:44:54 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Jane Fonda was type cast in the movie "Klute")
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To: Thinkin' Gal
"1607 marks the beginning of the English taking our land away from us," said Chief Bill Miles, who heads the Pamunkey Indian tribe in Virginia..."

"Our land", Chief? I thought the natives at the time didn't own any land. How could they have? They didn't even know what land ownership was until the concept was introduced by the Europeans, and even then they had difficulty understanding it.

Cordially,

44 posted on 05/01/2007 9:13:52 AM PDT by Diamond
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"1607 marks the beginning of the English taking our land away from us," said Chief Bill Miles, who heads the Pamunkey Indian tribe in Virginia, which existed when the Jamestown settlers arrived and whose members have refused to take part in the 400th anniversary festivities. And who did they first steal it from? All land is is either conquest or purchase. They may have been on it when we kicked them off, but I guarentee someone or something else lived on it before them!
47 posted on 05/01/2007 9:23:18 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Gelato

Like many, I procrastinated in studying my family tree my whole life, until recently. In the course of my studies, I was shocked to learn how many of my forebears were tied to the earliest settlement of Tidewater Virginia, including those who were on these very ships. The discovery has deepened my appreciation for how blessed I am to live in this great country.


48 posted on 05/01/2007 9:31:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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"We now tell the story of Jamestown as the place where the people of three cultures came together, not only the English," said Mike Litterst

If the English settlers hadn't arrived, I wonder what would be the story to remember on this soil today.

53 posted on 05/01/2007 1:53:44 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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Jamestown's uneasy birthday

Snort.

67 posted on 05/02/2007 5:42:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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