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Jamestown -- the birth of a nation 400 years ago
Yahoo (AFP) ^ | 29 April 2007 | by Jocelyne Zablit

Posted on 05/01/2007 3:28:31 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal

Jamestown -- the birth of a nation 400 years ago


The replica Jamestown ships, The Susan Constant, center, Godspeed, right, and Discovery ply the waters of Hampton Roads as they make their way to Virginia Beach to participate in the celebration of the 400th anniversary of the founding of Jamestown, Va., Tuesday, April 24, 2007. The centerpiece of the 18-month commemoration of the 400th anniversary of America's first permanent English settlement is almost here after a decade of planning. About two-thirds of the tickets for the 'America's Anniversary Weekend' extravaganza May 11-13 remain available; 31,587 had been sold as of April 19. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

by Jocelyne Zablit
Sun Apr 29, 6:11 PM ET

JAMESTOWN, United States (AFP) - When 104 men and boys sailed across the Atlantic 400 years ago to become the first permanent English settlers in the New World, little did they know that their odyssey would give birth to history's biggest superpower.

The small group of high-born, but ill-prepared colonists who set up camp along the James River on May 14, 1607 on a swampy, mosquito-infested swath of land in Jamestown, were seeking gold and a water route to the Orient.

Instead they found famine, disease, drought and hostile natives whose fate would forever be altered by the Jamestown settlement, the 400th anniversary of which is being celebrated this year.

"The settlement of Jamestown is a tremendous legacy," Jeanne Zeidler, executive director of "Jamestown 2007," the committee organizing the celebrations, told AFP. "This is the true story of America.

"Jamestown is the story of some very good people and some people who weren't always so good and ... people who learned to live together and sometimes fought each other."

The Jamestown colony, located in the eastern state of Virginia and generally upstaged in the nation's memory by the Mayflower pilgrims who arrived to Plymouth, Massachusetts, 13 years later, also laid the groundwork for America's principles of representative democracy and free enterprise.

The highlight of the quadricentennial celebrations will be a visit by Britain's Queen Elizabeth II on May 3 and 4, followed by three days of festivities on May 11-13 that will include stage productions, a ceremonial sailing by replicas of the three ships that transported the settlers and a concert by a 1,607-member choir and an orchestra of 400 musicians.

The queen, who will be accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh, also attended the 350th anniversary events in 1957 which marked her first visit to the United States as a monarch.

US President George W. Bush is also due to attend the ceremonies which have been 10 years in the planning.

But amid all the pomp and circumstance surrounding a date that marks the birth of a nation, some, especially Native Americans and blacks, are questioning whether there is much to celebrate.

For Native Americans, 1607 marks the beginning of their downfall and for African-Americans, Jamestown symbolizes the beginning of slavery in America with the arrival of the first African slaves in 1619.

"1607 marks the beginning of the English taking our land away from us," said Chief Bill Miles, who heads the Pamunkey Indian tribe in Virginia, which existed when the Jamestown settlers arrived and whose members have refused to take part in the 400th anniversary festivities.

"We are certainly proud to be Americans ... but we don't feel like it's something to celebrate or commemorate the fact that the settlers basically took our land away from us," Miles told AFP.

Of the estimated 15,000 American Indians who lived in the area near the English settlement in 1607, all but about 1,500 died within a century, most from disease or in battle with the settlers.

"When I ride though these roads here I see that only one or two percent of the people are Indians and there are all these other people," said Chief Ken Adams, who head the Upper Mattaponi tribe. "Four hundred years ago there was only us."

No Native American from the time of the English colonists is better known than Pocahontas, whose dealings with the settlers has formed the basis of many legends and a factually incorrect Walt Disney movie.

In a bid to avoid controversy and show consideration, organizers of the anniversary have toned down their wording to describe the event as a "commemoration" instead of a "celebration" and are going out of their way to include blacks and Indians in the festivities.

"We now tell the story of Jamestown as the place where the people of three cultures came together, not only the English," said Mike Litterst, spokesman for the Colonial National Historical Park.

"Certainly those three cultures didn't join hands and come together to join a society.

"But it is the contribution of all three that helped Jamestown survive and ultimately created the character of today's America."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: jamestown; virginiahistory
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To: EDINVA
For those planning to go to Jamestown this summer (and it would be a wonderful experience especially for school children) .. beware, Jamestown still has a swamplike feel with heat and humidity. Bring lots of water.

But swamplike is great - we live with it daily on the Eastern Shore :)

All kidding aside, our, almost, 9yo daughter is really excited that we are planning on visiting Jamestown this summer, nearly as excited as she is about daddy taking her camping in the Blue Ridge......mommy's planning on staying in Jamestown or here on the Shore (mommy doesn't do camping)

21 posted on 05/01/2007 6:45:48 AM PDT by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: Pharmboy

wasnt yesterday the anniversary of washington taking the oath of office? i know it was something significant.


22 posted on 05/01/2007 7:02:56 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: wouldntbprudent
Wierd.

Not really. Bet they're just being PC.

23 posted on 05/01/2007 7:04:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Gabz

“...(mommy doesn’t do camping)”

mommy is smart !!!!!


24 posted on 05/01/2007 7:11:16 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

You are so right about that! FRmail your way...


25 posted on 05/01/2007 7:16:40 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: thefactor
Indeed. April 30, 1789, The General took the Oath of Office at Broad and Wall in NYC.

"So Help Me God"

26 posted on 05/01/2007 7:36:16 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: SlowBoat407
Right! There just had to be quotes from whiny Indians complaining that their land had been taken away from them. Like they hadn’t taken it away from some other tribes who were there before them. They could still be sleeping in the woods and walking every they went. They should count their blessings.
27 posted on 05/01/2007 7:36:29 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: EDINVA

LOL!!! My husband claims my idea of camping is a hotel without room service.

We’re looking forward to doing a bit of exploring of Virginia this summer, other than a couple of trips to VaBeach/Hampton Roads, in the 4 years we’ve lived here I haven’t ventured off the Shore.......I know, I’m baaaaaaaaad!


28 posted on 05/01/2007 7:40:16 AM PDT by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: RayStacy

That amazes me too. You hear people say “my ancestor came over on the Mayflower” but you never hear, my ancestors came over on the Susan Constant..... etc.


29 posted on 05/01/2007 7:42:43 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Pharmboy; Thinkin' Gal

Another-Virginian-checking-in bump.


30 posted on 05/01/2007 7:43:10 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Ditter
Meanwhile....

Queen flies into PC war over fate of American Indians

31 posted on 05/01/2007 7:43:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
This subject always makes me think of this poem:

Peregrine White
And Virginia Dare
Were the first real Americans
Anywhere.

Others might find it
Strange to come
Over the ocean
To make a home.

England and memory
Left behind - -
But Virginia and Peregrine
Didn't mind.

One of them born
On Roanoke,
And the other cradled
In Pilgrim oak.

the rest of the poem here

32 posted on 05/01/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks for the *PING*

One of my grandfather’s direct ancestors (I forget how many “greats” relate to me) came to Jamestown circa 1619 as an adolescent, who settled in Maryland and some eventually made their way back to northern Virginia in the late 1700s, where many remain. I’m still trying to find out more info on him, the family history seems like it will be interesting.

We were in Jamestown about 3 years ago and they had already begun building new access roads. My husband didn’t want to go back this year... crowds. *SIGH*


33 posted on 05/01/2007 8:00:26 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (The word "Conservative" needs no modifier!)
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To: Gabz

” .....a hotel without room service.” Now THAT is roughing it!

Do hope you get over to the Valley and mountain areas of the Old Dominion this Summer. Just in Charlottesville, not too far from the shore (relatively speaking), the area is beautiful, has Monticello, Ash Lawn, Michie’s Tavern, UVA, etc. Madison’s estate is a bit north of C’ville, worth the side trip.

If you venture to Staunton, there’s the American Frontier Museum (they changed its name so I’m not sure what it is exactly). So much to see !! I’ve loved every minute of our road trips thru the state. These excursions will be helpful to your 8 y/o when her class starts studying VA history.


34 posted on 05/01/2007 8:25:22 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Gabz

Gabz, let me know when you’re in the Hampton Roads area. We’ll find some good places for you eat.


35 posted on 05/01/2007 8:30:20 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Ditter
That amazes me too. You hear people say “my ancestor came over on the Mayflower” but you never hear, my ancestors came over on the Susan Constant..... etc.

Here in Hampton Roads you hear it, right alongside "my ancestors had their land taken by the English".

36 posted on 05/01/2007 8:32:26 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Two good recommendations. Going there on Friday with my 10 year old.


37 posted on 05/01/2007 8:32:55 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: mewzilla

My wife pointed this out during a Jamestown commercial. Same old PC crap.


38 posted on 05/01/2007 8:34:00 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: SlowBoat407

That statement will not be part of the audio tour.


39 posted on 05/01/2007 8:35:11 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Abe Lnicoln put the nation’s birth somewhat later, i.e., “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

Jamestown, represented colonization of North America by Great Britain.


40 posted on 05/01/2007 8:44:54 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Jane Fonda was type cast in the movie "Klute")
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