[anita]

Thanks AB and Good Morning to EveryOne! (Thanks also to Rod for those kind words.)

CIA Senior Operative Calls Tenet A Liar, but for MSM - he is a "hero". Another liar was their hero too, who has paid fines for his lies & got impeached.

[rodguy911]

Excellent link anita!! Looks like Tenet did indeed throw us all a huge "Curve" ball. once again it's sad that GW kept so many Clintonistas on board.

He did so I am sure in a Christian manner of taking a person at his word until proven otherwise. But in the winner take all game of big league politics truth can be elusive at best.

[maica]

Excellent link, anita.

I found this comment in that thread very powerful, because we keep trying to separate some muslims from other muslims according to how ‘warlike’ they are.

From Captain’s Quarters:
Carol said the religion of peace died. Well, it did, but that was a lot longer ago than you may realize.

According to Robert Spencer and Gregory Davis, Islam was a religion of peace for the few years that Mohammad was in Mecca — before he had an army and was vulnerable to attacks from those who resented his claim to be the one and only prophet. This is the period of time when all of the “peaceful” and tolerant surahs were “revealed”. The surah that says, “There is no compulsion in religion” was “revealed” when Mohammed had no power to compel anyone.

Later, after he was forced out of Mecca and made his way to Medina, he began raising troops and resorting to warfare to spread his power and force others to accept him as the final and only authority to whom God spoke. During this period of time, the violent, kill-the-infidels-wherever-you-find-them surahs were “revealed”.

Someone pointed out that God wasn’t being consistent in his instructions, so Mohammed had another “revelation” in which Allah pointed out that he could “do all things”, including changing his mind and “abrogating”, or negating, previous revelations.

So the later, most violent of the surahs, the ones commanding all Muslims to engage in jihad and spread Islam by the sword, became official Islamic doctrine. And the hadiths that inform Muslims about Mohammed’s life — and therefore inform them of proper Islamic behavior — are full of brutal stories of Mohammed’s head-chopping conquests and slaughters.

I highly recommend reading “Islam 101” here: http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam101/

Posted by: Michael Smith at May 6, 2007 06:23 AM

[SE Mom]

So- it appears that due to the immaturity and infighting at Langley, the president was given incomplete and distorted information. Is that about it, in a nutshell?

And now George Tenet (talk about being in a state of denial) wants to somehow talk his way out of taking responsibility for the repurcussions.

Is there any reason to think this mentality is no longer operative at the CIA?

[gov_bean_ counter]

Rather we said that the CIA's analysts were not giving serious, professional attention to information about ties between Iraq and al Qaeda. The CIA's assessments were incomplete, nonrigorous and shaped around the dubious assumption that secular Iraqi Baathists would be unwilling to cooperate with al Qaeda religious fanatics, even when they shared strategic interests. This assumption was disproved when Baathists and jihadists became allies against us in the post-Saddam insurgency, but before the war it was the foundation of much CIA analysis.

The money quote. As we (well maybe me) pointed out last week there wasn't a damn thing wrong with the raw intelligence data. The problem was with the underlying assumptions made by many of the analysts looking at the data. Bush's take on the intel was steadily being validated by translated Iraqi documents.
Never forget it was the Dems who pushed for shutting down the document website after a trumped up "security breech". Of course Negroponte was more than willing to cooperate with them.