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Posted on 05/09/2007 12:10:40 PM PDT by jedward
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Wait until the gun rights groups join the fray. They’ll hang him out to dry.
So you think Jim should have allowed this sight to be turned into a liberal debating society?
Just let the RUtards take it over and use it as a campaign site to promote a radical leftwing candidate?
Somehow I don’t think that is what Jim had in mind when he started FreeRepublic.
“We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” —Ronald Reagan
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”
— Ronald Reagan, March 1, 1975
“Let us lay to rest, once and for all, the myth of a small group of ideological purists trying to capture a majority.
Replace it with the reality of a majority trying to assert
its rights against the tyranny of powerful academics, fashionable left-revolutionaries, some economic illiterates who happen to hold elective office and the social engineers who dominate the dialogue and set the format in political and social affairs. If there is any ideological fanaticism in American political life, it is to be found
among the enemies of freedom on the left or right — those who would sacrifice principle to theory, those who worship only the god of political, social and economic abstractions, ignoring the realities of everyday life. They are not conservatives.”
http://reagan2020.us/speeches/The_New_Republican_Party.asp
If you hate Free Republic so much, then why are you still here polluting our threads?
Well, perhaps not everyone knows how liberal Rudy is by now. I sure do. I think the sooner folks turn their sights to the real conservatives and spread the word about the huge differences between them and Giuliani, the better. That doesn't require a STOP RUDY campaign. It requires a SUPPORT ___________ campaign. I just feel that some are spending too much effort being against Rudy rather than spending that time being FOR someone else. When we put our support behind another candidate, all of the positive qualities of that candidate will highlight all of the negative qualities of Giuliani. :)
I’m waiting? If you’re going to accuse me of something, do it right out here where everyone can read it. And get to the point.
Why you asking me that? Im criticizing your selection of issues. All you presented were social issues. No economic and you claim Hillary and Rudy were equal on national defense. So why should I vote for Fred or anyone else?
I would just as soon Roe v. Wade was overturned but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it as there will be plenty of states where its legal. I like watching lesbians make out but other than that I dont have to deal with it. Terry Shiavo had her day in court. It was a waste of time for the Republicans to screw themselves over the issue. I've got as many guns as I need and no law is going to affect that. Rather than purge our party of Giuliania, what we need is to get rid of the Republicans who built the bridge to nowhere and waste all their time on flag burning ammendments rather than taking care of the people's business. Talk about immigration, our guys gave us a fence way too short that will never be built, all as campaign stunt and they still lost.
I don’t gamble either. But I do enjoy watching a good poker game now and then. LOL I also enjoy simple “yes” or “no” answers. ;)
You know nothing about politics, sunshine.
If you're not making much headway against the frontrunner, you have to go negative to bring down his support. At this point it doesn't serve the conservative candidates well to personally go negative so WE have to do it for them collectively. And they have nothing to do with our efforts and can disclaim it, condemn it, or whatever. But it will serve its purpose.
And I dont for a minute believe that Giuliani does either. Besides its a mute point. Partial birth is now illegal.
Who spawned it???? LOL. Are you mineral or vegetable?
The front-loaded primary process means that the heavy hitting has to be done now, not early next year.
It is unfortunate that those on both sides of the Rudy debate couldn't conduct themselves in a mature fashion. But that's neither here nor there now. I do not believe that Rudy could "hold the party together". I'm not sure why you thought I would feel that way. One of the things I hate the most about politics is the dirty games that are played. I'm sure I'll have to witness the same tactics being used against Hunter or Thompson, but that doesn't mean I'll be happy about it. Oh well....it is what it is.
It's early yet. He has to be brought down before the primaries. Now is the time to bring him to his knees. Afterwards, it might be too late. rudy gets the nod and a dim takes the WH.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention. He's said repeatedly that he SUPPORTS partial birth abortion along with opposing a ban on it.
And Partial Birth Abortion is only illegal because George W. Bush, a pro-life President, appointed two pro-life justices to the Supreme Court - something Giuliani can NEVER be trusted to do given his lifelong support FOR abortion.
Now, read this and tell me that Giuliani does not support Partial Birth Abortion:
[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000
TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999
MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?
MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]
MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....
MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?
MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000
You and the other social liberals spawned it by promoting your pro-abortionist, gun-grabbing, pro-radical gay agenda, draft dodging, pro-illegal alien invasion, liberal on this conservative forum. That activity clearly violated the mission of the site and pissed off a number of conservatives here along with the forum owner.
The Republican Party Platform is the mission statement for the Republican Party. As Republicans become aware that Giuliani's views are in opposition to the majority of the platform, you'll see a similar split in the Republican Party which will cause a division which may never be mended. It is imperative that Giuliani's campaign be ended and ended quickly to minimize the damage that it continues to cause.
Then you a well rested corps. Fight while you can. But, as you wish.
“I don’t gamble either. But I do enjoy watching a good poker game now and then. LOL I also enjoy simple “yes” or “no” answers. ;)”
You don’t gamble either, I see that. Well, let me allow you to enjoy my answer to your implied question below...
“I take it that you are denying that you were already a FReeper using a different screenname”
Yes - I absolutely deny that. And I also don’t appreciate you accusing me of it either. You called me a leader. I’ve never once called myself a leader. I have stood up for the conservative cause as a new member. I made suggestions and implemented my own suggestions. I haven’t asked anyone to follow me. You seem to have popped up on a thread that I created, so who’s doing what? Are you done?
Cant you find anything older than 2000? Or are you just cherry picking when he was running for Senate in a liberal state. Are you saying he couldnt have seen the error of his ways and grown?
Why would you expect the smart set who slurs conservative activists by calling them dogs, insects, twits and trolls to be capable of anything positive or productive?
I’m hesitating for a reason.
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